Organize the Start Menu

SysElim

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This is a huge thing for a very retentive person like myself. Since about Window 95 I've been able to right-click on the start menu and 'explore all users'.

I use this to then go into the start menu for all users and organize the crap out of it into folders. In Windows 7, it's gone. OK, so I found where the start menu items are stored in:
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

I can move items around to existing folders with 'administrator permission', I can create a new folder, but not rename it. There error I receive is something to the effect of 'The action can not be completed because the folder or file is open in another location'

Any thoughts?
 

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Turn off User account control. That should let you rename folders and such.

Open control panel and then click on the user settings. then click on user accounts and click change user account controls.
 
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I don't have this path in Windows 7. Do I have to adjust settings to unhide these folders or something?
 

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Dell Latitude
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Thanks Barman, that did the trick.
 

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There is a long list of annoying icons for programs over the folders in all programs. When I click on all programs, I'm generally looking for a folder and do not want to have to scroll through a list of chaff to get to the start of the folder list. Using the information above, I got rid of most of it. There are still several however that will not go away. I don't see them in the directory to move them. The ones I cannot find are: Default Programs, New Office Document, Open Office Document, Sierra Utilities, and Windows Update. How do I move them to a storage folder. I don't want to delete them, I just want to get them out of the way.
 

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HP Touchsmart
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XP Media Edition / Vista /Win 7 Home Premium
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Win 7 Machine: Intel Core 2 Duo T5850 @ 2.16GHz Merom 65nm
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4GB Dual Channel DDR2 @ 333MHz 5-5-5-15
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There is a long list of annoying icons for programs over the folders in all programs. When I click on all programs, I'm generally looking for a folder and do not want to have to scroll through a list of chaff to get to the start of the folder list. Using the information above, I got rid of most of it. There are still several however that will not go away. I don't see them in the directory to move them. The ones I cannot find are: Default Programs, New Office Document, Open Office Document, Sierra Utilities, and Windows Update. How do I move them to a storage folder. I don't want to delete them, I just want to get them out of the way.

You'll find all the start menu items in these locations.

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

C:\Users\YOUR USER NAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

Windows Update is located here.
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu

ProgramData and AppData Are hidden use Step 3 this tutorial to unhide them http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/56005-file-folder-hide-unhide.html
Jerry
 

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Sager NP9170
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Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz
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CLEVO P170EM
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Backlite
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CPU COOLER: Cool Master Hyper 212 EVO.
MOTHERBOARD: Asus Z87-A.
MEMORY: Kingston HyperX 2x4 GB.
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 650 TI.
PSU: Corsair TX750.
DRIVES: (1) Samsung 840 120 GB SSD (2) Western Digital blue 500 GB 7200 RPM.
There is a long list of annoying icons for programs over the folders in all programs. When I click on all programs, I'm generally looking for a folder and do not want to have to scroll through a list of chaff to get to the start of the folder list. Using the information above, I got rid of most of it. There are still several however that will not go away. I don't see them in the directory to move them. The ones I cannot find are: Default Programs, New Office Document, Open Office Document, Sierra Utilities, and Windows Update. How do I move them to a storage folder. I don't want to delete them, I just want to get them out of the way.

You'll find all the start menu items in these locations.

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

C:\Users\YOUR USER NAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

Windows Update is located here.
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu

ProgramData and AppData Are hidden use Step 3 this tutorial to unhide them http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/56005-file-folder-hide-unhide.html
Jerry
Thanks for the reply. aaaaa! I get it! Silly me :o. Now that I have made a Start Menu folder under all programs, I can just drag and drop the start menu icons above the folders into it.

I wonder why someone decided to put all that clutter into all programs in stead of putting them into a folder. It sure would remove a lot of clutter, Look better, and use up a whole lot less real estate under all programs. Sure... they are easier to find; but if you don't need them, it's a also lot to wade through to get to where you want to go. well.. anyway, thanks again.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Touchsmart
OS
XP Media Edition / Vista /Win 7 Home Premium
CPU
Win 7 Machine: Intel Core 2 Duo T5850 @ 2.16GHz Merom 65nm
Motherboard
Pegatron Corp. EVE Model
Memory
4GB Dual Channel DDR2 @ 333MHz 5-5-5-15
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Defaul 1920X1200 256MB GeForce 9300M
Sound Card
SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 25" Flat Panel Touch Screen
Screen Resolution
1900X1200
Hard Drives
500 GB Seagate ST3500620as (Sata) 1.5 TB Seagate External
Keyboard
HP Model RK713A
Internet Speed
3.0Gb
There is a long list of annoying icons for programs over the folders in all programs. When I click on all programs, I'm generally looking for a folder and do not want to have to scroll through a list of chaff to get to the start of the folder list. Using the information above, I got rid of most of it. There are still several however that will not go away. I don't see them in the directory to move them. The ones I cannot find are: Default Programs, New Office Document, Open Office Document, Sierra Utilities, and Windows Update. How do I move them to a storage folder. I don't want to delete them, I just want to get them out of the way.

You'll find all the start menu items in these locations.

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

C:\Users\YOUR USER NAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

Windows Update is located here.
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu

ProgramData and AppData Are hidden use Step 3 this tutorial to unhide them http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/56005-file-folder-hide-unhide.html
Jerry
Thanks for the reply. aaaaa! I get it! Silly me :o. Now that I have made a Start Menu folder under all programs, I can just drag and drop the start menu icons above the folders into it.

I wonder why someone decided to put all that clutter into all programs in stead of putting them into a folder. It sure would remove a lot of clutter, Look better, and use up a whole lot less real estate under all programs. Sure... they are easier to find; but if you don't need them, it's a also lot to wade through to get to where you want to go. well.. anyway, thanks again.

You're welcome, I did the same thing a long time ago I didn't like all that clutter up there either makes it a lot more simpler.
Jerry
 

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Sager NP9170
OS
Win 7 Pro x64 / Win 10 Pro
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz
Motherboard
CLEVO P170EM
Memory
12 GB
Graphics Card(s)
(1) Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 (2) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675M
Sound Card
(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) Intel(R) Display Aud
Monitor(s) Displays
17.3
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
(1) Samsung 860 EVO 500GB(OS) (1) Samsung 860 EVO 500GB(Data)
Keyboard
Backlite
Antivirus
MSE, Malwarebytes Pro
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
DESKTOP: Custom-built.
OS: Win 10 Pro x64.
CASE: Rosewill R5.
CPU: Intel I5 4670K CPU @ 3.40GHz.
CPU COOLER: Cool Master Hyper 212 EVO.
MOTHERBOARD: Asus Z87-A.
MEMORY: Kingston HyperX 2x4 GB.
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 650 TI.
PSU: Corsair TX750.
DRIVES: (1) Samsung 840 120 GB SSD (2) Western Digital blue 500 GB 7200 RPM.
I got rid of all the chaff, and when I updated one of my startup programs, it was right back in all programs. It's not hard to drop it into the startup folder, but does anyone know if there is there a way to get Win 7 to stop putting startup programs under all programs?
 

My Computer

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HP Touchsmart
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XP Media Edition / Vista /Win 7 Home Premium
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Win 7 Machine: Intel Core 2 Duo T5850 @ 2.16GHz Merom 65nm
Motherboard
Pegatron Corp. EVE Model
Memory
4GB Dual Channel DDR2 @ 333MHz 5-5-5-15
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Defaul 1920X1200 256MB GeForce 9300M
Sound Card
SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 25" Flat Panel Touch Screen
Screen Resolution
1900X1200
Hard Drives
500 GB Seagate ST3500620as (Sata) 1.5 TB Seagate External
Keyboard
HP Model RK713A
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3.0Gb
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