| Windows 7: Which backup software, Norton or Microsoft? |
30 Aug 2010
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#1 | | Windows 8 Professional 64-bit Minnesota |
Which backup software, Norton or Microsoft? Greetings to all,
It's my birthday today, and I was able to acquire a 2Tb external drive. 
Now I cannot really decide on which backup program to use.
I have Norton 360 which has an inbuilt backup program, now I'm wondering which backup program to use. The one Norton 360 has or the inbuilt Windows type.
My decision is somewhat in your hands. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 8 Professional 64-bit CPU Intel Core i3-2100 Motherboard ASRock Intel Z68M/USB3 Memory 4GB Graphics Card GeForece GTX 550 Ti Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 PSU 750w |
30 Aug 2010
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#2 | | |
Guess it depends upon what you want to backup. For example, I really only care about my data. So, for that, I just use a utility like robocopy to mirror my data directories on my internal hard drive to my external drive. This works well as it only copies files that have changed since the last backup. That's what gets backed up regularly to my external USB drives.
Now, I will occasionally do a system image of my Windows 7 desktop from my C drive to my D drive (different physical hard drives). This I can use to reimage my machine if I somehow blow it up.
The only thing that I keep offsite is my data backups though...these images are just "nice to haves". Not terrible important to me. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
30 Aug 2010
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#3 | | Windows 8 Professional 64-bit Minnesota |
One question about backups, does it get updated every time you back up? Such as, when I uninstall a program, the program on the backup is also removed or delete a file. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 8 Professional 64-bit CPU Intel Core i3-2100 Motherboard ASRock Intel Z68M/USB3 Memory 4GB Graphics Card GeForece GTX 550 Ti Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 PSU 750w |
30 Aug 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by Skulblaka One question about backups, does it get updated every time you back up? Such as, when I uninstall a program, the program on the backup is also removed or delete a file. Depends upon the type of backup that you do. If you are doing a file/folder backup as I do...your backups don't contain anything with regards to your actual programs. I just back up the actual data files.
If you are doing a system image, each time you image it, it would be a snapshot of exactly how your machine looked at that exact moment in time. Therefore, it would be aware of your apps and anything that you recently removed, would be removed in your latest image. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
30 Aug 2010
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#5 | | Windows 8 Professional 64-bit Minnesota |

Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 
Quote: Originally Posted by Skulblaka One question about backups, does it get updated every time you back up? Such as, when I uninstall a program, the program on the backup is also removed or delete a file. Depends upon the type of backup that you do. If you are doing a file/folder backup as I do...your backups don't contain anything with regards to your actual programs. I just back up the actual data files.
If you are doing a system image, each time you image it, it would be a snapshot of exactly how your machine looked at that exact moment in time. Therefore, it would be aware of your apps and anything that you recently removed, would be removed in your latest image. Thank you for your help, I'll add it to your reputation. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 8 Professional 64-bit CPU Intel Core i3-2100 Motherboard ASRock Intel Z68M/USB3 Memory 4GB Graphics Card GeForece GTX 550 Ti Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 PSU 750w |
30 Aug 2010
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#6 | | MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit Austin, Texas |
Win 7 Backup and Restore is actually two program classes in one.
You have the system image backup which is copy of everything on the partitions which you select and stored in a VHD format.
You also have a folder backup which produces an incremental backup of your selected folders stored in ZIP format.
This is a very general overview. I strongly recommend reading the tutorial by Brink on Win 7 Backup and Restore: Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup
I use Win 7 Backup and Restore-very successfully.
I am a strong advocate of Win 7 Backup and Restore.
The image backup is not an incremental backup but rather a fresh image.
The one characteristic of Win 7 Backup and Restore which I would like to see changed is that the new image backup overwrites the old. Thus you must rename the old before making a new if you want both. Brink explains this in his tutorial. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop OS MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit CPU AMD A10-4600M Motherboard AMD Pumori (Socket FT1) Memory 6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7660G Sound Card High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz) Screen Resolution 1600x900@60Hz Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410 Hard Drives SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device Internet Speed What the local pub, local coffee shop offers. Other Info Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device
Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed. |
30 Aug 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit Southern Ohio |
I find Acronis to be the best (IMHO)
Lots of extra options and great compression. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866 Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SC Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T SE White Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB Antivirus Kaspersky Browser IE Other Info LG BD/DVD |
31 Aug 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 x64 Home Premium |
I tried using Acronis on my Vista x32 laptop and it constantly consumed 250 MB of RAM and since that was about 50% of the RAM that it took to boot the computer I decided to use a lighter program in the form of Macrium Reflect which runs for just over 15 MB of RAM and has never failed plus thanks to Wishmaster's help and insight I was able to get Reflect x64 to work on my Win 7 desktop.
~Maxx~ | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP HPE 270f OS Windows 7 x64 Home Premium CPU Intel Core i7 930 @ 2.8 Ghz Socket 1366 LGA Motherboard Pegatron Truckee v1.04E41 Memory 8 GB 1366 Mhz DDR3 (PC3-10700) RAM Graphics Card ATI Radeon 5770 1 GB DDR5 RAM Sound Card Realtech High Definition Monitor(s) Displays 32" Sony Bravia Screen Resolution 1366 X 768 Keyboard Logitech Illuminated Mouse Logitech MX Revolution Hard Drives Intel 25nm 120 GB Series 320 SSD HD Tune- 265 MBps Read/ 130 MBps Write
LaCie 1TB + 1TB RAID 0 eSATA Drive HD Tune- 160 MBps Read/ 90 MBps Write Internet Speed 36.4 Mbps Maximum on a 37 Mbps Motorola SB501 Modem |
31 Aug 2010
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#9 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi Hafnarfjörður IS |
Hi there
The FREE version of Macrium reflect doesn't do FILE backup / selective file restore.
I think Acronis is the easiest and fastest package anyway -- the size doesn't matter since if you are doing a full system backup INCLUDING DATA FILES you really don't want to be working on the computer.
Macrium reflect (the free version) doesn't handle spanned media or multi-volume files either and doesn't do Incremental backups either.
Also Acronis allows you to schedule backups automatically and supports other devices like cartridges etc.
Cheers
jimbo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi CPU Q9400 QUAD Motherboard P5QL-CM Memory 8GB Graphics Card On Motherborad Sound Card Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Apple Cinema display Mouse Toshiba wireless laser Hard Drives 4 X 1TB SATA Internet Speed > 20MB up |
31 Aug 2010
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#10 | | Windows 8 Professional 64-bit Minnesota |
I'll use with Windows Backup and Restore, thank you everyone for your tips. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 8 Professional 64-bit CPU Intel Core i3-2100 Motherboard ASRock Intel Z68M/USB3 Memory 4GB Graphics Card GeForece GTX 550 Ti Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 PSU 750w Which backup software, Norton or Microsoft? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:28 PM. | |