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Windows 7: Acronis True Image 10. How does it Work?

19 Aug 2009   #41
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post

If you put a new hard disk into your computer you can restore an acronis True Image to it without ANY problems -- I've done this zillions of times on laptops for example where I've replaced the crappy 80 / 100 GB installed hard disk with a nice fast 320 GB version.

The only problem you *might* encounter is that the program might not recogniize a hard disk at all if its never been formatted -- in this case just insert a Windows install disk , create a partition and cancel the install or use GPARTED to create an initial partition.

Acronis will then allow you to restore your old image from your backup -- Create the Stand alone bootable recovery program on to an external USB device / CD / DVD.

When restoring you can change the size of the partition too.

Note if you Multi-boot or have a "hidden" small partition restore that as well and make it ACTIVE. Make the rest PRIMARY.

If you don't have a hidden small system partition then make the one you are restoring ACTIVE if its an OS partition or PRIMARY if its just a data partition.


I am with you on this issue. Acronis may not be the greatest partition manager, but as an image backup/restore manager it has worked fine for me many times with many configurations.

With the newer hardware and OSes I would NOT revert to using anything prior to ATI v11 though (I have used ATI since v7).

Also, and I have mentioned this many times, new ATI users should IMMEDIATELY register their product with ATI support and download and install any available updates (Install/Repair option).

I believe that the numerouse partition management, boot image management and the options available in a multi-OS boot-loader configuration lead to a number of people declaring that some particular tool (does not matter which vendor) "destroyed their system".

"Experience is directly proportional to damaged equipment."

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19 Aug 2009   #42

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Vista x64 / 7 X64

Hi Muad,

I just did a little test of "free" disk image apps.

I used Vista SP2 x64 - because I had tried them on various builds of 7 , and one of them had issues - the others worked flawlessly. It wouldn't be fair to draw too many conclusions on Beta o/s - I decided to use Vista - they should all sail thru that.

All were installed on Vista SP2 x64 partition and the same source and target partitions used each time.

1. Macrium reflect free edition. A true native 64 bit app. performs disk/partition imaging and allows scheduling - a big plus point. It is very small at 25 mb installed , with a 6.5mb boot disc.

This is always available free at their website.

Set at medium compression and highest priority. The program opens and enumerates the drives extremely quickly.

To create image:

Time taken 6m 30s. Max CPU usage 22%. Image size 5.28gb.

Rt click the image and it mounts almost instantaneously.

2. Paragon Hard Disk Manager 9.5 special edition. One of the free promo's they often do - not available on the website - googling may come up with something. They do free "Express" versions always available on the site, but with basic functionality.

It is not small at 134 mb, tho. includes a large array of partitioning functions, a 60mb boot disc with lots of options , e.g. File Transfer Wizard and Boot Corrector.

It also performs a full range of Backup functions including file/folder, partitions /drives, incremental/differential, scheduling and various include/exclude options.

Set at medium compression - it doesn't allow for high priorty setting.

To create Image:

Time taken 13mins. Max CPU usage 11%. Image size 5.4gb.

Altho slower - taking into account the CPU usage and compression - similarly efficient.

3. Acronis ATI 11 - the free version from Seagate. You are supposed to have a Seagate or Maxtor drive for this to work - so not available to everyone.

This is large at 210 mb. It does include cloning functions, but not the partitioning of the Paragon, or the scheduling of the Macrium and Paragon.

It took a long time to analyze the drives and start up.

Set at medium compression and high priority.

To create image:

Time taken 7 m 30s. Max Cpu 29%. Image size 5.7 gb.

Not as efficient as the others, but you can't complain as it's free.

Rt clicking the Image to mount caused it to Analyze the drives again - this time it froze - a bit of a concern - but it worked after shutting it down and trying again. A big plus is the ability to access the image via Windows Explorer.

4. Easeus Todo - a new freebie - couldn't be included in the "test" as it declared there wasn't enough space on the target ( only 11gb free- seems sensible enough - but the other apps. didn't complain at the same space constraint).

It is quite small at 58mb , including 28mb boot disc.

It does drive/partition imaging and has a cloning function , but no scheduling or partitioning.

Testing it with a different source and target doesn't allow accurate comparison with the others, but showed that it works fine - with good compression level but not particularly fast.

It mounted the image without issue.

The GUI is very simply laid out and easy to follow - good for your average user.

It worked fine on 7x 64 also.

Free Backup Software for Hard Drive System Backup and Restore. Backup freeware for data backup and disaster recovery in Windows and Linux - EASEUS
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19 Aug 2009   #43

7600x64 RTM

Tried a burn in compatibility mode and that won't boot either...
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19 Aug 2009   #44

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64

Have you tried them on another pc - to see if they are bootable at all?

You may have a very rare incompatibility issue.

There is a WinPE2 boot disc - you shouldn't have any trouble booting that - sadly , it only comes with the paid version.

You might browse the Support site and see if that throws any light on the issue.

Macrium Support Forum - Rescue CD

Alternatively, you could try Todo and check the boot disc works first. It is only a 35mb download. It didn't appear quite as efficient as Macrium , but I wasn't able to do a direct comparison - others say it is very fast.
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19 Aug 2009   #45
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail


Nice work! (I mistyped it in the Rep I gave you! )

Now that I am getting my retail Ultimate install with all apps straightened out I am going to look at Macrium (Free) more closely. I have already recommended it to several people, based a brief test and on your positive comments, as a free image backup option.

The comparison with the "free" ATI that comes with HDDs is OK but I do not recommend the "free" ATI to anyone. It is just too feature restricted to suit my tastes.

As you can tell I have a history with ATI and get a little peeved when I sense that some have posted a "does no work with Win7" when there is ample evidence it does. But backup/restore operations in a multi-boot environment have several areas where a mistake can be made by the novice regardless of the app being used.

At any rate I have been in need of a free image backup tool to install and use on my client systems. One that I can leave installed on their system when they pick it up. It is a nice "value added" benefit of my system recovery service. I can't do that with ATI (retail) but my first impression is that Macrium will fit the bill. So Macrium will get the free PR and not ATI and my clients will have a recovery plan.

I have a system coming in tomorrow night. Good time to give Macrium a test run. I do like the performance times.

One question, does Macrium have a UBCD4WIN (BARTPE) plugin?
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19 Aug 2009   #46

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64

Hi Muad,

Yes it is included in the free version - tho. I have never used it

Acronis True Image 10. How does it Work?-macrium-bartplugin-2009-08-20_032358.jpg

How to create BartPE rescue cd for Macrium:

Macrium Reflect - Blogs and News

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19 Aug 2009   #47

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64


If your pc has trouble booting Linux cd's - you might look at the BartPE option - you need legacy o/s for that tho.

You may have the same trouble with TODO as that uses a Linux based boot cd.

Otherwise, you could try the Paragon products - the cd's are Linux/DOS based , so you have another option there.

They are not as fast as the Macrium as they work at a lower priority level - but they equally efficient when you take that into account. Compression levels are equally good also.
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20 Aug 2009   #48

Windows 7 Professional x64

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post

Acronis 12.0.x does the same. Backs up fine, but restore is another story.

Hey Ken, ATI 12 Build 9.788 restoring just fine for me. Maybe you have an older build.

Working with triple boot also.
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20 Aug 2009   #49
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post

Acronis 12.0.x does the same. Backs up fine, but restore is another story.

Hmmm.. I restored a Vista HP 32 bit install over an old Win7 x64 v7232 partitions on a different hard drive yesterday in preparation for a new HDD coming today.

Had to change the boot option description using Easy BCD. Otherwise, no problems.

So what is the error that occurs when the restore does not work?
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20 Aug 2009   #50

XP MCE .... XP Pro 64 .... W7 U x64

If I can get it to restore by removing my 3rd data partition .. It will not Boot.
Repair 1 from the W7 DVD fixes some W7 files.
Repair 2 from the W7 DVD fixes the Boot.

I'm thinking the confusion is the extra partition that W7 installs in front of the C partition.
Sure wish I knew how to get rid of it.
The new Acronis is in Beta testing right now .. I almost signed up to be a tester.
But decided to wait instead ... I'm in no real hurry to move to W7
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