| Windows 7: Imaging strategies |
17 Jun 2012
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#81 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 Hertfordshire |
It has carried over into my private life since I retired. | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Hewlett-Packard/G62-107SA Notebook OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz Motherboard Hewlett-Packard 1425 Memory 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel(R) HD Graphics Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Builtin Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz Mouse Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 Hard Drives 250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
2TB Seagate GoFlex USB 2 Drive
1TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive
1.5TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive (Samsung)
1TB Iomega NAS. Internet Speed 60 Mbs download 3 Mbs upload Antivirus Norton 360 Browser Chrome |
17 Jun 2012
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#82 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
The problem is not so much with the system, but with the user data. Many folks do not bother to create a seperate user data partition (except the SSD people) and that's when it becomes iffy.
I agree that the system can always be recovered one way or the other. But I am with Keith and rather make a system image more often. In my case it takes less than 5 minutes and I rather be safe than sorry.
But if you have user data in the C partition, I would highly recommend frequent images. It is, of course, a matter of how often things are updated in the system and the files - and don't forget the Favorites.
PS: reinstalling the system with an older installation disc is a real pain. I just did that last week with my pre-SP1 installation disc. Main reason was that my winsxs was approaching 20GBs and that really hurt on a 60GB SSD.
Just processing all the updates (including those of my 2007 Office Home and Student) took me 3 days. Making the system settings and reinstalling the many programs I use was a lot less of a pain because I did that as I went. But the updates took most of the time. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
17 Jun 2012
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#83 | | Windows 7 Pro with SP1 32bit Gurgaon, India |
I have not kept the User Data in the System Volume Drive for over 6 years. It is all kept on an external Drive including my e-Mail messages, e-Mail Addresses and Bookmarks (Favorites). The more important User Data is also burnt on a re-recordable DVD at least quarterly if not more frequently.
For me making a System Image and its verification takes over 40 minutes, and since there are no changes from the last time except updates and upgrades, I consider anything more frequent than once a month as a waste of time. But yours and Keith's points of view are equally valid. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Pro with SP1 32bit Motherboard Intel D845GVS1 X86-based PC Memory 2 gigs of RAM Graphics Card Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller Sound Card Realtek AC'97 Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 931BF Black 19" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1280X960 Keyboard COMPAQ Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse iBall Laser Precise Speedster Hard Drives 1. SAMSUNG SP0822N ATA Device ~ 80 GigaBytes
2. Seagate FreeAgent Go USB Device ~ 500 GigaBytes Internet Speed 4 mb/sec |
17 Jun 2012
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#84 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 Hertfordshire |
I think someone said it earlier. Each case is different. What works for one will not be suitable for another. The best question one can ask oneself is. What would happen if...
Second thoughts: The question should be how do I get back to where I am now if...
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Reason: Second thoughts.
| My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Hewlett-Packard/G62-107SA Notebook OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz Motherboard Hewlett-Packard 1425 Memory 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel(R) HD Graphics Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Builtin Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz Mouse Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 Hard Drives 250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
2TB Seagate GoFlex USB 2 Drive
1TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive
1.5TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive (Samsung)
1TB Iomega NAS. Internet Speed 60 Mbs download 3 Mbs upload Antivirus Norton 360 Browser Chrome |
17 Jun 2012
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#85 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by whs PS: reinstalling the system with an older installation disc is a real pain. I just did that last week with my pre-SP1 installation disc. Main reason was that my winsxs was approaching 20GBs and that really hurt on a 60GB SSD.
Just processing all the updates (including those of my 2007 Office Home and Student) took me 3 days. Making the system settings and reinstalling the many programs I use was a lot less of a pain because I did that as I went. But the updates took most of the time. Seems to run against the very reason I image.
My winsxs is 7gb, with all updates, after running this reduced it by 4gb. Cleanup Winsxs after Windows 7 SP1 install « Alan's sysadmin Blog
Of course I made an image before I did it, but have encountered no problems.
Why was your winsxs so large? I'm especially interested because I've treated myself for father's day.
I've ordered a 64gb Crucial M4 - thanks for the tut. That has me ready to go! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU QuadCore Intel Core i7 920, 2666 MHz (20 x 133) Motherboard Asus P6T Memory 6134 MB (DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM) Graphics Card (2 - SLI) NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 (1024 MB) Sound Card Onboard Realtek ALC888/1200 @ Intel 82801JB IC Monitor(s) Displays HDMII Screen Resolution 1280 x 800 PSU Corsair 550 Case iStarUSA S-10000BL Black Hard Drives Crucial M4 (64 GB SSD)
WD Caviar Blacks
WD5001AALS-00J7B1 ATA Device (465 GB)
WD5001AALS-00J7B1 ATA Device (465 GB)
WD5001AALS-00L3B2 ATA Device (465 GB)
WD Elements USB External (250 GB) |
17 Jun 2012
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#86 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 Nottingham, England |
I'm the same I haven't kept my user data on the same partition as Windows for years (although they are on the same internal drive). I will be separating them soon though as I'm going to buy an SSD for Windows and keep my data on my spinners. I only image my system drive too. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Dimension 9200 (XPS 410) OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4Ghz Motherboard Intel P965 Express Chipset - Dell Inc. 0CT017 Memory 4GB - HYMP512U64CP8-Y5 Graphics Card nVidia GeForce 8600GTS Monitor(s) Displays DELL 22" E228WFP Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech Cordless Desktop MX3000 Mouse Logitech Laser Mouse MX3000 Hard Drives 2x Western Digital WD3200AAKS
Intel Raid 0
Seagate Expansion 1TB - External Other Info Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 2.5.3 - Dell Inc.
Broadcom 802.11g Wireless Network Adapter
Sony Optiarc DVD RW AD-7241S
Lite-On BD-RE iHBS112
TEAC CA-200 19-in-1 Media Card Reader
HP Photosmart 8450 Printer |
17 Jun 2012
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#87 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |

Quote: Originally Posted by Victor S 
Quote: Originally Posted by whs PS: reinstalling the system with an older installation disc is a real pain. I just did that last week with my pre-SP1 installation disc. Main reason was that my winsxs was approaching 20GBs and that really hurt on a 60GB SSD.
Just processing all the updates (including those of my 2007 Office Home and Student) took me 3 days. Making the system settings and reinstalling the many programs I use was a lot less of a pain because I did that as I went. But the updates took most of the time. Seems to run against the very reason I image.
My winsxs is 7gb, with all updates, after running this reduced it by 4gb. Cleanup Winsxs after Windows 7 SP1 install « Alan's sysadmin Blog
Of course I made an image before I did it, but have encountered no problems.
Why was your winsxs so large? I'm especially interested because I've treated myself for father's day.
I've ordered a 64gb Crucial M4 - thanks for the tut. That has me ready to go! The reason my winsxs was so large (I believe) because my installation was from the first days of Windows 7 - thus very old. And over the years I had installed and uninstalled a lot of programs that all left their .dlls behind (despite using Revo).
I am leary of cleaning up the .dlls because you never know which program might be using them, but removing the SP1 backup files may be a good idea. Plus there were a few other nits and lice that had crept into my system over time which suggested that a reinstall was a good choice. It was not a big deal - just boring. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
17 Jun 2012
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#88 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |
I will image after a significant update like a new (particularly paid) software install. I like to have an image which isn't more than 2 weeks old at hand. Large fairly static data I definitely put on another partition and back these up separately. For example I have a fairly large collection of download software and info which I keep on its own partition.
This way an image of my OS + installed programs + little active data files takes ~ 10 minutes. I don't bother with system restores. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
17 Jun 2012
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#89 | | Windows 7 Pro with SP1 32bit Gurgaon, India |
Neither do I. I have kept System Restore switched off almost ever since it appeared. However many are of the opinion that Imaging and System Restore are mutually exclusive functions and therefore System Restore should not be switched off. 
Quote: Originally Posted by mjf I don't bother with system restores. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Pro with SP1 32bit Motherboard Intel D845GVS1 X86-based PC Memory 2 gigs of RAM Graphics Card Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller Sound Card Realtek AC'97 Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 931BF Black 19" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1280X960 Keyboard COMPAQ Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse iBall Laser Precise Speedster Hard Drives 1. SAMSUNG SP0822N ATA Device ~ 80 GigaBytes
2. Seagate FreeAgent Go USB Device ~ 500 GigaBytes Internet Speed 4 mb/sec |
17 Jun 2012
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#90 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by wanchoo Neither do I. I have kept System Restore switched off almost ever since it appeared. However many are of the opinion that Imaging and System Restore are mutually exclusive functions and therefore System Restore should not be switched off. 
Quote: Originally Posted by mjf I don't bother with system restores. I don't want to rabbit on but I have considered a reimage to be superset of System Restore and not mutually exclusive. Maybe I miss something. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 Imaging strategies problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:11 PM. | |