Backup and Restore Questions

1. I suggest you do not use Win7 imaging but free Macrium. It has a lot more function and is easier to use: Imaging with free Macrium

2. With Macrium, you can image to USB devices. For the different systems you may want to define different folders. Note, however, that images take about 55% of the occupied space in the partition to be imaged - so they can get rather large. An external disk is better than a USB stick.

3. Yes, Ghost can do bare metal (called a clone). So can a lot of other (mostly non-free) programs (Acronis, Paragon and Macrium Pro), but not free Macrium. Here you image partitions.

4. What you read about same size is something different. With Macrium (and some other free programs), the partition to which you reinstall an image has to be same or bigger size than the partition the partition size from where it was originally taken. Some other programs (e.g. free Paragon), can also deal with smaller target partitions. But that statement has nothing to do with the external disk to which you image. You just need enough space to fit the image.

porkr said:

Thank you for the tip on Macrium. I will look into this utility.

To be clear ==> I will be imaging to an external 500GB USB hard drive which I will probably have 3 partitions.

So when you say it uses 55% of any one partition I am a bit confused.

Lets say for example I have a 60GB partition of which 50GB are used ( 10GB free ).

When I go to use Macrium to take an image of this partition, do I need a 60GB partition on the USB drive or must it be larger. If its larger, then I will not be able to restore back to the "smaller" partition (?)

1. You do not need partitions on your external drive - just folders. That is a lot more flexible.

2. In your example the image would be appr. 25GBs +/-. Only the real data counts, not the freespace.

3. Yes, if you want to restore the partition from the image, you will need a 60GB partition or larger (in your example).

4. If you want to restore to smaller partitions, you should use free Paragon. But not many people use that. So if you need help, you will find a lot more Macrium helpers - at least here.

PS: I guess now you have 2 of the same answers. LOL.

No need to scare. I have developed a little safe guidance (see below) how to run a whole imaging and restore cycle without making any damage. Maybe you want to exercise that to get a feel for it. It looks lengthy, but it is really very simple.


Macrium test

1. Shrink 2GBs from C and define a simple volume (partition) - let's call it Y
2. Move some files (any files) into Y - I always also move the sample picture folder in (you'll see why)
3. Define a test folder on your external backup disk - call it Mtest
4. Make an image of Y to Mtest - requires that you make a new definition
5. Delete a couple of pictures from the sample picture folder on Y (I always use the 2 animals)
6. Reboot and tap (ESC, F2 or whatever it is on your system) to get into the BIOS boot sequence
7. Set your boot sequence to CD/DVD reader
8. Throw in the Macrium recovery CD and let it run, then hit Enter
9. Now you are in the recovery wizard, set it to Mtest where it says "Locate Image" and to Y where it says "Choose partition to overwrite with the image data".
Note: the partition letters may not be the same as on your system. Macrium uses its own lettering. Best is to go by the size of the partitions and open it with the little + in the front.
10. Watch out when it asks whether to replace the Master Boot Record - in this case say "do not replace" because this is only a data partition. If that were your system partition, you would replace the MBR provided you do not have a separate boot partition.
11. When you get the little window saying "Your computer will now reboot", you have to hit "Cancel" (on the bottom" to get it to reboot. That's a little strange way to end the session, but that's the way it is.
12. Check whether the 2 animals in the sample picture folder are back. That shows you that the recovery worked.

When you have done these steps, you did the whole cycle and have learned

1. That your recovery disk works
2. How to recover
3. That things work

Now you can delete the little 2GB partition and add it back to it's originating partition.
If you are not familiar with the creation and deletion of partitions, watch this tutorial: https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/72427-data-partition.html

You worry too much. If you follow the instructions and do it easily, it will boot. I have done it more than 30 times.

I suggested the little exercise so that you could gain some practical experience. For the OS partition, there are only 2 differences:
1. you may have to make the partition "active" (see Note below)
2. you may have to restore the MBR

Note however: if you have the small 100MB active boot partition, things are a bit more complicated. In that case you would mark the OS partition as primary and not restore the MBR. You can leave the 100MB partition alone. Image it once - just in case. But normally you need not touch it - neither for imaging nor for restore. It never changes.

PS: before you make the exercise, please post a snip of your Disk Management so that I can have a look at it. There is a small danger in case you have more than 3 primary partitions.