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Windows 7: Backup Image with Windows Backup and Restore

23 Jan 2011   #11

Windows 7 Pro

I am sure I have Java installed since every once in a while it says it needs to be updated (which I do). It is also listed in my Revo Uninstaller. I have no idea what version or how to find that information.

Ahhhhhhhh in the folder where it is installed, it says "jre6"; if that gives a clue.

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23 Jan 2011   #12

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If you go into control panel > programs and features, scroll down to Java and then scroll across to the far right. You should see the version there.
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23 Jan 2011   #13


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Thanks Marsmimar, your advice is appreciated.

I think I/we are very much aligned with the purpose of the thread. This is much more important than a personal preference issue.

My real issue is aligned with what the OP raised.
Here is what I expect
Once I commit to making an image the MSE subsystem should not under any circumstances terminate the imaging process by default.

This is what I think is required from a security subsystem:
1) Make the image - alert user to the presence of malware. [Default setting]
2) Make the image - either remove or quarantine malware in the process. [User setting - Recommended]
3) Terminate the image - if malware is detected. [User setting - Optional]

All the above should apply to Windows file/folder (zip) backup as well.

A possible solution may be to unplug your modem (as I normally do) , turn MSE off when doing any sort of backup. Never scan your backup HDDs with MSE.
Is this really acceptable?
Unless I'm misunderstanding your reasoning, you wouldn't want to re-install with a backup that contains a virus, so wouldn't you want it scanned, too?
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23 Jan 2011   #14

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I think what mjf is saying is, based on his bad experience with MSE nuking his backup without letting him decide if that's what he wanted, he's hesitant to let MSE do any more scanning. Ideally, as you've suggested, you would want your anti-malware to scan your backup for that very reason: to not install any infected files or folders. But if you have to turn MSE off to avoid having it automatically delete any infected files/folders, it may not be the best product to use.
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23 Jan 2011   #15


I may be wrong, but I think if you change from Recommended to Quarantine at the Severe and High Alert levels, it won't automatically delete the file. At least that's my interpretation of it.
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23 Jan 2011   #16

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1

If you read my posts #8 and #10 again the issue the OP raised and of concern to me still exists. It appears that the MSE subsystem is poorly integrated into the Backup & restore subsystem.
My suggestions in post #10 is the way malware should be dealt with in an imaging context.

The fact that the malware was detected of course is good. The OS should deal with it and procede appropriately. Terminating the imaging process is not appropriate. Deleting a complete backup zip file because one of its elements was detected malware is inappropriate.
(I know exactly what the offending Java applet is in this example, that's not the issue.)

I don't know who ticked this thread as a resolved issue? -It isn't.
However, it is for me, I'm no longer using MSE.
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