| Windows 7: Windows Backup |
01 Mar 2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit |
Windows Backup Hello Forum, I have been trying to use Windows 7 Backup program to backup my entire PC and create a System Image. I am backing up to another hard drive on my system dedicated for backup only (no other data resides on this drive). My problem is that after the first (initial) backup I create, any subsequent / scheduled backups fail due to inadequate disk space. It seems that Windows, instead of just backing up any changed data, goes off and creates another complete backup, which does not fit on the disk. My question is this, is there a way to set up Windows Backup to initially backup my entire PC and create a System Image, then just backup any changes for future scheduled backups, instead of creating another complete system backup each time? | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit |
01 Mar 2011
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#3 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 Hertfordshire |
Or alternately is looking for an incremental image backup. Windows Backup cannot do this. You would need something like Macrium Pro which unfortunately is not free but is reasonably priced. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Hewlett-Packard/G62-107SA Notebook OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz Motherboard Hewlett-Packard 1425 Memory 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel(R) HD Graphics Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Builtin Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz Mouse Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 Hard Drives 250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
2TB Seagate GoFlex USB 2 Drive
1TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive
1.5TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive (Samsung)
1TB Iomega NAS. Internet Speed 60 Mbs download 3 Mbs upload Antivirus Norton 360 Browser Chrome |
01 Mar 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by DJSEVEN My question is this, is there a way to set up Windows Backup to initially backup my entire PC and create a System Image, then just backup any changes for future scheduled backups, instead of creating another complete system backup each time? Yes.
In "Change Settings" Select the "let me choose" option and untick the "create system image" box. This way only incremental file/folder backups will be created. From time to time Windows will decide to do a full file/folder backup and create an additional backup set.
You now decide when to do a System Image (full disk snapshot). You simply click on the "Create a System Image" on the left of the Backup & Restore screen.
Note that System Images and (personal) file/folder backups are totally different and use totally different approaches. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
02 Mar 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit |
Windows Backup Thank you all for your responses, After reading your comments, it looks like Windows cannot incrementally backup a system image. Personally, I would like to have a complete (system image included) backup on a weekly basis. Looks like I can do this with an incremental file/folder backup. However, if I want to update (create a new) system image backup, I would first want to delete / remove the current system image (I’m not sure how I’d go about doing this) and then change the backup settings to create a system image. As Kado897 mentioned, in order to backup my system as described above, I may have to look into purchasing a backup application, is this a fare assumption? | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit |
02 Mar 2011
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#6 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 Hertfordshire |

Quote: Originally Posted by DJSEVEN Thank you all for your responses, After reading your comments, it looks like Windows cannot incrementally backup a system image. Personally, I would like to have a complete (system image included) backup on a weekly basis. Looks like I can do this with an incremental file/folder backup. However, if I want to update (create a new) system image backup, I would first want to delete / remove the current system image (I’m not sure how I’d go about doing this) and then change the backup settings to create a system image. As Kado897 mentioned, in order to backup my system as described above, I may have to look into purchasing a backup application, is this a fare assumption? Windows normally sets aside 30% of your backup disk space for system images and manages that space. So depending on your backup disk size and the image size it may hold several. If you want more control over your images create the image manually rather than automatically and set windows to hold only one image. You can then rename the old image folder which is called WindowsImageBackup to something else before taking the next image. I usually rename mine to contain a date. Be aware though that if you do this the folder must be renamed back to WindowsImageBackup before you can restore from it. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Hewlett-Packard/G62-107SA Notebook OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz Motherboard Hewlett-Packard 1425 Memory 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel(R) HD Graphics Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Builtin Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz Mouse Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 Hard Drives 250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
2TB Seagate GoFlex USB 2 Drive
1TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive
1.5TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive (Samsung)
1TB Iomega NAS. Internet Speed 60 Mbs download 3 Mbs upload Antivirus Norton 360 Browser Chrome |
02 Mar 2011
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#7 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |
I always keep multiple images and use both Windows and Macrium free.
I've never had a problem with Windows imaging - others have! But I always create a fresh image.
When you rename WindowsImageBackup to say WindowsImageBackup_3_3_11
in the root windows sees no image there and will create a new one. When the renamed is put back as WindowsImageBackup it recognises the image.
see here Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
02 Mar 2011
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#8 | | |
I have been using Windows for making backup images of my system partition for the last two years which is when I upgraded to Vista Ultimate. Both making the backup image and restoring it is easy and convenient. I have a WD 500GB external hdd that I use only for this. After the image is made I unplug the hdd until I want to restore the image.
On this hdd are only two images; one is of a clean install of Vista Ultimate x64; and the other is of a clean install of Windows 7 Ultimate x64. The rest of the gigabytes are reserved for Win8 Ultimate  .
My system partitions are always small, no more than 120GB. I don't make incremental copies of file folders and other things because if I do I will end up keeping a lot more stuff than I need. Once in a while I just go through and DELETE a lot of it. Funny thing is, I don't miss any of that deleted stuff  . | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Deviantsystems OS Win7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i7 950 (4x 3066 MHz with HT) Quad Core Motherboard Asus P6X58D-E Memory 6GB DDR3 1333Mhz Graphics Card Nvidia GTS 450 (1024MB GDDR5 | DX 11) Sound Card Intel HD Audio via Realtek ALC889 with 8-channel support Monitor(s) Displays Sony Bravia 32" Screen Resolution 1080i, x1768x992 Keyboard Microsoft Ergonomic Mouse Logitec Trackball PSU OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W 80+ Case Lian Li PC-7FN Cooling Processor cooling: Scythe Big Shuriken SCBSK-1000 Hard Drives 2x WD 1TB 7200 RPM Sata |
03 Mar 2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit |
Windows Backup Once again I thank you all for your input, I suppose the closest scenario to what I was hoping for is in kado897’s last reply, that is to ‘create the image manually rather than automatically and set windows to hold only one image’. However, since I’m only interested in saving just that last (most recent) system image, I would once again be deleting the image prior to creating a new one (each week or so). | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit |
03 Mar 2011
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#10 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 Hertfordshire |
you are welcome, but I would think very carefully about keeping only one image, if the image get corrupted for any reason then you are stuck. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Hewlett-Packard/G62-107SA Notebook OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz Motherboard Hewlett-Packard 1425 Memory 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel(R) HD Graphics Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Builtin Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz Mouse Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 Hard Drives 250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
2TB Seagate GoFlex USB 2 Drive
1TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive
1.5TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive (Samsung)
1TB Iomega NAS. Internet Speed 60 Mbs download 3 Mbs upload Antivirus Norton 360 Browser Chrome All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:57 AM. | |