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Windows 7: Images are more important than ever

18 Mar 2011   #1
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
System Images are more important than ever

Now that we learned that a Repair/Install of an SP1 system is impossible or very difficult ( Repair Install ), it is more important than ever that people are being encouraged to image frequently.

I keep about 10 current images and stash away another set of older images all the way back to the initial installation. It is also a good strategy to keep images on 2 or 3 different disks and even use 2 different imaging programs - just to be on the safe side. The day you need an image to get yourself out of a tight spot, you will applaud yourself for these measures.

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18 Mar 2011   #2

Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot


I was a little fooled by the title (did you mean photographic images )

I would add - or cloned drive.

I was doing cloned drives as I never had a problem but tried Windows 7 image restore when I had a choice of both and it worked well.

I had been counting on system restore to back out of installs and other minor changes, but twice - rolling back service pack 1 and IE9 RTM with system restore, SFC found inconsistencies that were not there before the restore. In both cases, I recovered from image backups I had made before the installations.

The only thing I didn't like about the image restore compared to the cloning the system drive was that you lost restore points. But now that I find I can't trust them anyway....

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18 Mar 2011   #3
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8

Thanks for the suggestion I updated the title.
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18 Mar 2011   #4
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate

It's not impossible, I'm in the process right now in VirtualBox using the installer I created HERE with an SP 1 ISO from MS TechNet.

I do agree that images are very important and I use them myself.

How to Do a Repair Install to Fix Windows 7
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19 Mar 2011   #5
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1

I'm confused; I think. After installing SP-1 can I use built in Windows 7 back up to a dvd??
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19 Mar 2011   #6

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1

It can also be done by slipstreaming the SP into the ISO.

I agree that's probably a bit beyond the average user, but frankly, I think alot of the time, so is creating system images, or even backups! "Joe Average" who know's nothing about computers, is in my experience, unlikely to take any sort of backup at all. Just my tuppence worth.
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19 Mar 2011   #7
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8

1. I understand that a slipstreamed .iso does not work
2. Imaging (win7 backup as Layback Bear calls it) is really no rocket science. Everybody should be able to do it.
3. The morons that do not make provisions to be able to bail themselves out, should go to the Geek squad and pay thru the nose
4. People that know nothing about computers and are not willing to learn the basics (and imaging is part of the basics) should not use computers or pay thru the nose - LOL
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19 Mar 2011   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
1. I understand that a slipstreamed .iso does not work
Ah fair enough, didn't know that

As for parts 2-4, I completely agree. It's not difficult, and everyone SHOULD both be able to do it and actually do it. Frankly even my girlfriend, who manages to break a computer as soon as she looks at it figured it out the first time I showed her.

The point I was making was that unfortunately Joe Average doesn't do these things. How many times do we see someone who has installed 12,000 (ok I'm exaggerating a little) toolbars that they never use and then wonder why their browser is slow? How many people just let everything put itself in startup and then wonder why it takes 30 minutes to boot?

There is a popular TV show over here called "The IT Crowd" in one of the episodes the non technological minded manager had loads of popups appearing all over her screen, and her response was "I like it like that"

The sad thing is, comedy or not, it's not too far away from the truth.
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19 Mar 2011   #9
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8

I think we agree. I always hope that our modest efforts here help to educate people. I am always shocked to see people in my computer club that have used Windows since 3.1 and still have no clue about the most elementary things. They are coming to my classes trying to learn something, and my first PC was Vista - but at least they are trying.
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19 Mar 2011   #10

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1

I agree that images are vital. I had to do a restore myself lat Thursday following some BSODs and sfc reporting unfixable corruption and BSODing itself. Had to go back two images before sfc ran clean, fortunately I image twice a week with Win 7 and Macrium so only had to go back a few days and recovered virtually all data files from a daily data backup.

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