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20 Mar 2011
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Norton vs. Paragon for Backing Data Hi, I wanted to do a quick poll what do you think out of Norton 360 and Paragon is the best backup. Do they both do the job, the same ?
I added a poll for those who just want to vote and don't want to write ( lazy  ) | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows8 CPU Core2Quad (2.6 Ghz) Motherboard nVidia 775 Memory 8 Gigs DDR2 Graphics Card Geforce 480 (1.5 gigs) Sound Card Motherboard Audio Monitor(s) Displays 22" Samsung LCD Screen Resolution 1680x1050 PSU 850 Watts Hard Drives 120 Gig SSD
60 Gig SSD Antivirus Norton 360 Browser FireFox 20.0 |
20 Mar 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
I'd guess most people here have little to no experience with either product and use something else or nothing at all. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
20 Mar 2011
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#3 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 Hertfordshire |
I don't know about Paragon but you have to be careful with Norton. It just builds up and up in size. The only way to control it is to go into the Norton Backup Drive fairly frequently and delete the backup. The first time I did this the backup size was 80GB and took 4 days to delete. This was on the previous version so it may have improved. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Hewlett-Packard/G62-107SA Notebook OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz Motherboard Hewlett-Packard 1425 Memory 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel(R) HD Graphics Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Builtin Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz Mouse Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 Hard Drives 250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
2TB Seagate GoFlex USB 2 Drive
1TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive
1.5TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive (Samsung)
1TB Iomega NAS. Internet Speed 60 Mbs download 3 Mbs upload Antivirus Norton 360 Browser Chrome |
20 Mar 2011
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#4 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE Indian Territory |
Personally, I wouldn't buy or install anything with the Norton brand on it. I did try Paragon once, and it appeared to create an image okay, but I never used it to recover the system, because I prefer Achronis True Image. Many others here like Macrium Reflect. I have it installed also, and it seems good, but since I never have a problem with TI (recently), I stick with it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
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20 Mar 2011
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#5 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
Norton is bloatware requiring a special tool to remove it just like the worst infection.
Why would anyone pay to bloat their system when Windows 7 works much better with free lightweight MSE or Avast5 and the Windows 7 firewall, which are perfectly adequate.
You see now why these factory bloatware sponsors put such pressure on the OEM's to enforce their preinstalled bloatware, to the point where clean-copy installation DVD's are no longer provided by any. This is how they hook Users who may never know that Windows 7 is natively the first feather-light, instantaneous OS. | My System Specs | | |
20 Mar 2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Vienna, Austria |
Greg, the OP wasn't referring to anti virus but to backup / imaging.
Regarding AV you're absolutely right, there's hardly a program worse than NAV. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 |
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Are there any good free/open source alternative that are equal to Paragon or Macrium ? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows8 CPU Core2Quad (2.6 Ghz) Motherboard nVidia 775 Memory 8 Gigs DDR2 Graphics Card Geforce 480 (1.5 gigs) Sound Card Motherboard Audio Monitor(s) Displays 22" Samsung LCD Screen Resolution 1680x1050 PSU 850 Watts Hard Drives 120 Gig SSD
60 Gig SSD Antivirus Norton 360 Browser FireFox 20.0 |
20 Mar 2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Vienna, Austria |
| My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 |
20 Mar 2011
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#9 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Hmm, that Norton discussion reminds me a bit of the people who beat up on Vista without ever having seen it in real. I have NIS2011 and it is fantastic. Completely uninvasive, always on top of things and all the scans are done at idle time. Plus I have tons of settings options of which I use some extensively.
I had used MSE for a little while, but after I caught two viruses, I got rid of it. (and I do not frequent shady websites - the McAfee site advisor would have warned me anyhow). Fortunately I had my images to bail me out. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
21 Mar 2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit Imperial Beach, Ca. |
WHS, never thought I'd be agreeing with someone giving a hat tip to a Norton AV product, but I agree with your take on NIS 2011. Until recently I always recommended against using Norton because of its well known resource hog tendencies.
A couple weeks ago a friend offered me one of his NIS installs of a 3 year license and I decided to take him up on it. I like it for the reasons you specify. Unless it starts acting funny I think I'll keep it until 2014. In this case it's pretty good "freeware." Jeromethegiraff, I have Acronis True Image 2011 and Easeus Back Up Workstation 2.0 installed. Both are good but I prefer Easeus. Easus has a good free Back Up. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Build #2 Workstation OS Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit CPU intel core i3 2100 3.1 GH Motherboard Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Memory Kingston DDR3 1333 8GB Graphics Card nvidia Geforce 9500GT Sound Card On board Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic Screen Resolution 1440x900 PSU Thermaltake Pure Power 600W Case Antec Solo Hard Drives 1 Maxtor 250GB
1 Seagate 320 GB
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