| Windows 7: Multiple Disc Images ? |
26 Jun 2011
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#21 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by Mike99 I renamed my previous image. When I went to create a new image the system searched & came back & said my last image was 6-3-2011, which is correct. But since it was renamed, how did the system find & recognize it?
Is this normal behavior? My concern is that since this image was found that it will get deleted when I create a new one. Will you provide a screenshot showing the message. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
26 Jun 2011
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#22 | | MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit Austin, Texas |

Quote: Originally Posted by Mike99 I renamed my previous image. When I went to create a new image the system searched & came back & said my last image was 6-3-2011, which is correct. But since it was renamed, how did the system find & recognize it?
Is this normal behavior? My concern is that since this image was found that it will get deleted when I create a new one. If you followed the renaming approach, most recently nicely explained by Marsimar, then you will not overwrite the previous system image with a new system image.
At this point, I would suggest just doing it and being amazed when it works. I learned how to use the Win 7 Backup and Restore by ignoring all writeups and just doing it. I made some mistakes on the way, but now making, and restoring, are like taking candy from a baby. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop OS MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit CPU AMD A10-4600M Motherboard AMD Pumori (Socket FT1) Memory 6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7660G Sound Card High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz) Screen Resolution 1600x900@60Hz Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410 Hard Drives SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device Internet Speed What the local pub, local coffee shop offers. Other Info Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device
Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed. |
26 Jun 2011
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#23 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by mjf 
Quote: Originally Posted by Mike99 I renamed my previous image. When I went to create a new image the system searched & came back & said my last image was 6-3-2011, which is correct. But since it was renamed, how did the system find & recognize it?
Is this normal behavior? My concern is that since this image was found that it will get deleted when I create a new one. Will you provide a screenshot showing the message. I was not mixing the two multiple imaging strategies. I did the renaming method as suggested. It was j:\WindowsImageBackup. I changed it to j:\WIB 06032011. I did not rename any subfolders.
Obviously I was surprised when the system found it. Here's a screenshot as requested. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Homebuilt OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel G620 Motherboard ECS H61 Memory 4.00 GB Monitor(s) Displays Sony HDTV PSU Corsair 430 Cooling Stock Intel Hard Drives 1.5 TB Seagate Green Internet Speed 3 Mbps |
26 Jun 2011
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#24 | | MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit Austin, Texas |
Not real sure, but the main thing is that all works fine. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop OS MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit CPU AMD A10-4600M Motherboard AMD Pumori (Socket FT1) Memory 6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7660G Sound Card High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz) Screen Resolution 1600x900@60Hz Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410 Hard Drives SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device Internet Speed What the local pub, local coffee shop offers. Other Info Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device
Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed. |
26 Jun 2011
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#25 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |
Here is an a partition of one of my ext HDDs. Note the renamed image dated 15/6/11. 
If I rename any of the obvious Windows images to WindowsImageBackup it will be recognized and restored if I choose.
If I try to make a new image I get this 
Windows recalls the date of the last image made to this partition. It will create a new WindowsImageBackup and ignore WindowsImageBackup_15_6_11. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
27 Jun 2011
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#26 | | |
Thank you everyone for all your help.
I just did another image and everything looks good. My system shows both WindowsImageBackup and my re-named folder.
On my old PC I backed up data by copying it to the external HDD. And I had all the original discs to load programs if needed. However I never created an image. But now I have a larger HDD, both internal & external, and actually have room to make an image.
I read some tutorials before making images but do not recall seeing the one about renaming old images. Or maybe just forgot about it. But when I could not find my original image I became quite concerned.
During the last couple days I did read the sticky threads on imaging & on Macrium. I've previously heard about Macrium & others. In fact I have Norton Ghost but did not install it because there was a warning message when I started to install that it would disable a file's last date accessed property, or something similar to that. So I decided to use Windows 7 built in imaging. Since I thought about using Macrium at one time, is there any consensus of opinion if it is better/faster/more reliable than Windows 7?
Thanks again,
Mike | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Homebuilt OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel G620 Motherboard ECS H61 Memory 4.00 GB Monitor(s) Displays Sony HDTV PSU Corsair 430 Cooling Stock Intel Hard Drives 1.5 TB Seagate Green Internet Speed 3 Mbps |
27 Jun 2011
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#27 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 Hertfordshire |
Free Macrium has a number of advantages over the Windows backup.
1. It is faster but the limitation on speed is likely to be the speed of your drive if it is USB connected.
2. It produces slightly smaller images but not enough to get it for that.
3. The image is easily mounted to recover individual files if required.
4. You don't have the difficulty of having to rename the image. Macrium generates its own name. It can also be in any folder not just the drive root.
5. You can chose the partitions to backup more freely than with Windows.
There are a couple of disadvantages also.
1. You need to create a Linux recover disk which some people have problems with.
2. The free version of Macrium does not do incremental or differential images.
3. I don't think the free Macrium lets you schedule backups.
The full version of Macrium get around these problems and adds other features but costs around $40 + tax. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Hewlett-Packard/G62-107SA Notebook OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz Motherboard Hewlett-Packard 1425 Memory 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel(R) HD Graphics Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Builtin Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz Mouse Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 Hard Drives 250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
2TB Seagate GoFlex USB 2 Drive
1TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive
1.5TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive (Samsung)
1TB Iomega NAS. Internet Speed 60 Mbs download 3 Mbs upload Antivirus Norton 360 Browser Chrome |
27 Jun 2011
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#28 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit South Central Texas |
Now that you are confident that Windows 7 imaging tool works, and you have a couple of system images to fall back on, I'd say give Macrium free a try and learn what it can do. It's also not a bad idea to keep separate images using 2 (or more) imaging tools. The logic (or paranoia  ) being if the Win 7 image fails it's unlikely that the Macrium image will fail at the same time. And another free product that has received good reviews is Paragon. Imaging with free Macrium Free Backup Software: Paragon Backup & Recovery (Advanced) Free Edition - Overview | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony Vaio VPCEB47GM Laptop OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit CPU Intel i5 2.4 Ghz Memory 8GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel HD 3000 Sound Card IDT High Definition Monitor(s) Displays 15.6 WGXA Anti-Glare LED Screen Resolution 1280x800 Hard Drives 640Gb 7200rpm Antivirus MSE Browser Opera (primary) with IE9 backup |
07 Feb 2013
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#29 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by marsmimar Let's suppose your external hard drive is empty. The first system image you create with the built in Windows 7 imaging tool will automatically be called WindowsImageBackup. If you want to store multiple images you can simply rename this first WindowsImageBackup to something distinctive like WIB-011511-InstalledAdobe. The second image will now be called WindowsImageBackup. On your external hard drive you will see two entries: WIB-012511-InstalledAdobe WindowsImageBackup
If you create a 3rd system image and leave the external hard drive exactly as above, the 3rd system image will over-write WindowsImageBackup. If you want to save the second image it too must be renamed to something like WIB-062611-InstalledJava. Then you can create the third image and your external drive would look like this: WIB-011511-InstalledAdobe WIB-062611-InstalledJava WindowsImageBackup
Now let's say you want to restore your computer back to the very first system image. You would have to rename WIB-011511-InstalledAdobe back to WindowsImageBackup. Since the third image is also name WindowsImageBackup you can either rename it to something distinctive or, during the restore process you can select which one of the WindowsImageBackup files you want to use. Personally, as soon as I create a system image I immediately rename it so I can remember what prompted me to make the image in the first place. Hope this helps. marsmimar,
My question is can you move the created image files from the partition from which they were created dto a different one? I did such a thing & experienced a restore image failure. I did not write down the error code.
jeff | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DELL OPTIPLEX GX620 OS dual boot 7 & XP CPU INTEL P4 NT Memory 2 Gb |
07 Feb 2013
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#30 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |
My 2 cents worth...
I caution against moving images (be they Windows, Macrium or whatever) across partition boundaries. Different partitions have different filesystems and the move or copy is actually a physical move of GBs of data. Renaming or moving within a partition is just a filesystem/directory entry change. In this situation I have never experienced problems with Windows imaging provide you:
1) Make one image at a time only using "Create a System Image". Do not "over write" WindowsImageBackup before renaming, moving or deleting it. This way you are not relying on shadow storage.
2) Rename the image in a partition root to WindowsImageBackup prior to restore.
Over to Marsmimar.
Last edited by mjf; 07 Feb 2013 at 04:39 PM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 Multiple Disc Images ? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:20 PM. | |