| Windows 7: Question on Windows 7 backup |
29 Jul 2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit |
Question on Windows 7 backup So after my last PC got fried by a power surge I've been backing up my HDD (lost a HDD from it) with just the default Windows 7 utility. I have little personal experience with B&R in Windows so I set it to do an image and file backup & selected the file locations I wanted backed up.
After reading around here it seems I may be just reinventing the wheel by doing both image & file backups. If I do an image backup, a file backup would be totally unnecessary wouldn't it?
What're the pros & cons of image vs file? I liked the sound of an image backup as it makes it seems I don't have to reinstall Windows or my programs and their data from scratch (which is the biggest hassle for me, the files I care about are most are images and music which are backed up on several other devices as well).
Thanks! | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Myself OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit CPU Intel Core i7 930 @ 3.8ghz Motherboard ASUS P6T Memory Corsair Vengeance 8gb Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD5850 Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays AOC 17" LCD @ 1440x900 PSU Antec EarthWatts 750W Case Coolermaster HAF922 Cooling Coolermaster Hyper 212+ Hard Drives WD Cavier Green 1tb x2 |
29 Jul 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Enterprise x64 no SP |
Image backup. pros:
- The files are compressed depengin on the method you are working with, you can save space.
- You can backup any amount of data to DVDs using winrar, you can set the file size manually, later the 'parts' can be rejoined easily.
- If someone else looks at the backuped image, he/she can't find out what is in there, you can password protect rar files and make them read-only, so no one can delte them (HDDs) cons:
- You need a software to access your data.
- Slower access due to the decompressing process (really depends on file type). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built PC OS Windows 7 Enterprise x64 no SP CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz 36°C Motherboard Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Z68X-UD3-B3 (Socket 1155) 40°C Memory 4GB Hyperx 1600MHz stock XMP Graphics Card Asus GTS 450 stock or 900-1800, 1804 memory Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster SA350 (SMS24A350H) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 pixels, 32 bits, 60 Hz Keyboard Trust Isla Wired Keyboard Mouse Gigabyte ECO600 (with extended usb wireless adapter) PSU 500W Coolink Case Cooler Master Elite 335 Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus single fan Hard Drives 64GB Silicon Power E20 SSD (Intel SRT cache);
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5002AALX-00J37A0 38°C (cached);
733GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HD753LJ 27°C; Internet Speed down: 27 Mbps, up: 12 Mbps Other Info Optical Drive: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223F
Printer: HP Photosmart C5280 All-in-one
Genius G-Pen F610 (PenPad)
Genius 2.0 speakers, JBL speakers, Technics RPF880 Headphones
soft: Gdata, Zemana Antilogger, Nero, MSI Afterburner, Core Temp, CPUZ, Auslogics Disk Defrag |
29 Jul 2011
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#3 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 Hertfordshire |
Yes and no. If you do the image and file backup at the same time the thing you gain is that it is easier to restore just the files. It is possible to extract just your files from an image but more difficult. See this tutorial System Image - Extract Files Using Disk Management
A better solution is take the image out of the scheduled backup and do it more frequently so that your files are more current. You can then do separate image backups to match your needs. See this tutorial Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Hewlett-Packard/G62-107SA Notebook OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz Motherboard Hewlett-Packard 1425 Memory 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel(R) HD Graphics Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Builtin Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz Mouse Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 Hard Drives 250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
2TB Seagate GoFlex USB 2 Drive
1TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive
1.5TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive (Samsung)
1TB Iomega NAS. Internet Speed 60 Mbs download 3 Mbs upload Antivirus Norton 360 Browser Chrome |
29 Jul 2011
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#4 | | |
Hello & welcome to Seven Forums.
Sorry to hear about the misfortune with your previous PC.
If you made a complete system image back up, a file back up would be pointless IMO. Read this tutorial: Backup complete computer: create an image backup.
The pros of a system image are obvious, as it is an exact clone of the partition containing the OS, so there's no hassle with clean install & updating.
You might want to take a look at this thread as well: Imaging with free Macrium. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom/DIY OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel C2D E8400@4Ghz OC Motherboard ASUS P5Q-E, bios 2101 Memory 4x2GB Kingston HyperX 8500@1066Mhz Graphics Card Nvidia GTS450 OC Sound Card Onboard SoundMax Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Syncmaster 17" Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Mouse Gigabyte M6900 PSU Corsair TX-750 V2 Case Custom Tower Cooling Air: Arctic Cooling 2xF8 & F12; Akasa AK-968, 2xAK-HD-BL Hard Drives WD6402AAEX-640GB(system), WD10EALX-1TB(storage), other external disks & docking stations Internet Speed 10M/1M |
29 Jul 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit |
Speedgamer: Are you talking about image or file backups?
Kado: I might be missing something but it sounds like you're contradicting yourself. How do you take the image out of the scheduled backup, yet run it more frequently?
And FYI since I didn't mention it before, I run a weekly backup.
Thanks again! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Myself OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit CPU Intel Core i7 930 @ 3.8ghz Motherboard ASUS P6T Memory Corsair Vengeance 8gb Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD5850 Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays AOC 17" LCD @ 1440x900 PSU Antec EarthWatts 750W Case Coolermaster HAF922 Cooling Coolermaster Hyper 212+ Hard Drives WD Cavier Green 1tb x2 |
29 Jul 2011
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#6 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 Hertfordshire |
In the change settings dialogue uncheck Include a system image.
You can then create a system image manually when you need to because of Windows Updates or installed program changes. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Hewlett-Packard/G62-107SA Notebook OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz Motherboard Hewlett-Packard 1425 Memory 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel(R) HD Graphics Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Builtin Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz Mouse Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 Hard Drives 250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
2TB Seagate GoFlex USB 2 Drive
1TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive
1.5TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive (Samsung)
1TB Iomega NAS. Internet Speed 60 Mbs download 3 Mbs upload Antivirus Norton 360 Browser Chrome |
29 Jul 2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Enterprise x64 no SP |
Defender: I'm talking about image backup, but you can call it file backup as I meant .iso and .rar files written to a HD or DVD | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built PC OS Windows 7 Enterprise x64 no SP CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz 36°C Motherboard Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Z68X-UD3-B3 (Socket 1155) 40°C Memory 4GB Hyperx 1600MHz stock XMP Graphics Card Asus GTS 450 stock or 900-1800, 1804 memory Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster SA350 (SMS24A350H) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 pixels, 32 bits, 60 Hz Keyboard Trust Isla Wired Keyboard Mouse Gigabyte ECO600 (with extended usb wireless adapter) PSU 500W Coolink Case Cooler Master Elite 335 Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus single fan Hard Drives 64GB Silicon Power E20 SSD (Intel SRT cache);
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5002AALX-00J37A0 38°C (cached);
733GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HD753LJ 27°C; Internet Speed down: 27 Mbps, up: 12 Mbps Other Info Optical Drive: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223F
Printer: HP Photosmart C5280 All-in-one
Genius G-Pen F610 (PenPad)
Genius 2.0 speakers, JBL speakers, Technics RPF880 Headphones
soft: Gdata, Zemana Antilogger, Nero, MSI Afterburner, Core Temp, CPUZ, Auslogics Disk Defrag |
30 Jul 2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by speedgamer01 Defender: I'm talking about image backup, but you can call it file backup as I meant .iso and .rar files written to a HD or DVD The reason I ask is because typically "file backup" would just be the backup of individual files, where as an image would be just a full copy of the drive/partition itself.
I think I'll just periodically backup an image of the drive & that should suffice.
Thanks! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Myself OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit CPU Intel Core i7 930 @ 3.8ghz Motherboard ASUS P6T Memory Corsair Vengeance 8gb Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD5850 Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays AOC 17" LCD @ 1440x900 PSU Antec EarthWatts 750W Case Coolermaster HAF922 Cooling Coolermaster Hyper 212+ Hard Drives WD Cavier Green 1tb x2 |
30 Jul 2011
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#9 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit South Central Texas |

Quote: Originally Posted by DefenderX1 The reason I ask is because typically "file backup" would just be the backup of individual files, where as an image would be just a full copy of the drive/partition itself.
I think I'll just periodically backup an image of the drive & that should suffice.
Thanks! If time is not a problem, and if you don't need to use individual file backups on a regular basis, then a system image is probably the best way to go. Windows 7 imaging tool takes about 40 minutes to image 100GB for me. Macrium free and Paragon free take about 30 minutes, just for comparison purposes. Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - Information and download Free Backup Software: Paragon Backup & Recovery Free Edition - Overview | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony Vaio VPCEB47GM Laptop OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit CPU Intel i5 2.4 Ghz Memory 8GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel HD 3000 Sound Card IDT High Definition Monitor(s) Displays 15.6 WGXA Anti-Glare LED Screen Resolution 1280x800 Hard Drives 640Gb 7200rpm Antivirus MSE Browser Opera (primary) with IE9 backup Question on Windows 7 backup problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:10 PM. | |