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Windows 7: New free system imaging program

24 Aug 2011   #51
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Hi mj,

I am no security expert, but here is why, roughly.

When you scan a file ( in this case an executable) , the a/v will check which modules it loads and the calls it is capable of making.

They use different algorithms so results will vary. Some will compare what they think might be dangerous against their own white list - of course the a/v developer has to know an app. to put it on the white list in the first place.

Coincidentally, I saw Windows Defender in action for the first time just the other day.

It popped up warning about a possibly suspicious app. Link for more info went to MS site, where they confirmed it as an FP. ( That was different app. - not produkey )


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25 Aug 2011   #52
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Just tried a test.

Easeus performed remarkably.

1. Imaged a 28gb o/s partition ( 21gb used ) to another partition on the same drive.

Took 6mins 48 seconds. Image size 12gb.

New free system imaging program-easeus-pe31-2.jpg

Much better than I expected.


2. Shrank the original partition a little to test how well it restored to a smaller drive.

It allows resizing during restore - down as well as up. ( Obviously the minimum is the used space in the image )

New free system imaging program-easeus-pe31-4.jpg
No problem at all - took exactly the same time and worked perfectly.

New free system imaging program-easeus-pe31-3.jpg

Strange it doesn't allow mounting with the pe component.

Unlikely to be needed, but odd .

Both operations from pe3 media.


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26 Aug 2011   #53
maxseven

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 6.1 Build 7601 (SP1)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
Strange it doesn't allow mounting with the pe component.

Unlikely to be needed, but odd .

Both operations from pe3 media.
I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying here. It appears that from your Windows Desktop you recovered an image of a C:\ partition to another drive labeled K:\

But you're saying that desktop is the PE environment? By "doesn't allow mounting" you mean...what that having booted your PC to the PE environment you can't mount-and-examine/extract individual files?

From the pics alone that desktop looks like Win7 so I'm confused.
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26 Aug 2011   #54
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Hi Max,

1. That is one of my custom pe3 builds I made.

It has full windows explorer with themes, thumbnails, audio, video, etc.

It looks like a regular windows 7.


2.
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By "doesn't allow mounting" you mean...what that having booted your PC to the PE environment you can't mount-and-examine/extract individual files?
Yes, that is correct. With Easeus pe component , the mount option is greyed out.

I assume that is because you need some kind of Explorer to see a mounted image. You don't get that in a standard winpe recovery environment made from WAIK .

Some imaging companies therefore make their own explorer, which they include in their pe component.

Macrium has it's own explorer. Not especially marvelous, but it does the job.

Paragon doesn't need a separate explorer as it has it' own file system drivers and you can view image contents within the paragon app interface.


3.
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It appears that from your Windows Desktop you recovered an image of a C:\ partition to another drive labeled K:\
Don't worry about the drive letters. That is the same partition.

Drive letters are different depending on where you are looking at the drive from.

It is always best to double check you are restoring to the right place by the drive Label ( i.e. the name ) and the size.


4. Easeus can mount in pe3 - very well and quickly - I have tricked it into doing so. They must have disabled it deliberately.

5. I have asked if there is a permanent method of doing that.
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26 Aug 2011   #55
maxseven

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 6.1 Build 7601 (SP1)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
That is one of my custom pe3 builds I made. It has full windows explorer with themes, thumbnails, audio, video, etc. It looks like a regular windows 7.
Of course, and I missed that completely i.e. the pics looked like full W7 so I got lost w/the PE comment. I understand now.

Thanks for your detailed reply!
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26 Aug 2011   #56
damien76

Win7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

This is a very nice topic here. Thanks SIW2 for the very good information shared
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28 Aug 2011   #57
alan10

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit SP1 x64
 
 

@ SWI2

I like the idea of you App.
It would have been so much better if I had seen this topic before downloading and burning to DVD and installing the WAIK ! ! !
Next I have to uninstall WAIK and hope it comes out clean.

Easeus ToDo seems O.K. under Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit for which I downloaded KB3AIK_EN.iso

I am now working on a friend's 32 bit Vista.
Will your App work on that ?
Or can I re-use the KB3AIK_EN.iso installation DVD.

Regards
Alan
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28 Aug 2011   #58
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by alan10 View Post
It would have been so much better if I had seen this topic before downloading and burning to DVD and installing the WAIK ! ! !
Next I have to uninstall WAIK and hope it comes out clean.
I may have missed the point. I have WAIK installed this way.
Why do you see the need to uninstall it?
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28 Aug 2011   #59
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Hi Alan ,

No, my app. needs dism - it isn't included in Vista.

You will be able to install WAIK on Vista and then Todo will be able to make it's own winpe media.


However, you don't need to.

If you already made Todo pe media - just make a copy and give it to your friend.



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Why do you see the need to uninstall it?
It's enormous and he probably won't want to use it again.
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28 Aug 2011   #60
seth500

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I have already used Todo for a restore of the operating system from the PreOS method and it was cake to say the least. It worked perfectly.
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