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Windows 7: WHAT is Win7 Builtin Backup program really Good for?


19 Sep 2011   #1

Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Home SP3
 
 
WHAT is Win7 Builtin Backup program really Good for?

I fielded a question about this today and didn't really like my own answer.
If one wanted to use the builtin/embedded Windows 7 Backup package, for what reason would one use it? It can't really restore a running/activated hard drive image... and its overkill for mere stashing of copies of important data, so .... why?

And, to show my bias a bit.. IF one were just INSISTENT on using the package, and subsequently one had a real hard drive crash/burn, how would one go about restoring a running/valid/active volume with all parts intact, all programs working normally using the archive created by Windows 7 Backup??? I'm guessing one of you smart guys has done a tutorial on such

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19 Sep 2011   #2

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

You use the "system image" component of backup. I used it to image my 1TB seagate, when I moved instead to a 1TB Western Digital. Worked just fine.
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19 Sep 2011   #3

Windows 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

I use the built in Windows 7 Backup Utility...

I have a 1TB External USB hard drive plugged in simply for this. I have set it up to take a daily backup of all my Important and Sentimental media and i have also created 1 single full image of all the machines in the house (i took this just after a fresh install of windows + standard software i would normally use).

Nice thing is, if you delete a file and then realise you need it, you just just use the previous versions (Previous Versions - Restore Files and Folders) on that folder to recover it.

How to an recover image - System Image Recovery

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zapp22 View Post
and its overkill for mere stashing of copies of important data, so .... why?
About this... in my opinion, the cost of storage doesn't compare to the distress i would face if i was to lose all videos/pictures of my kids/family...
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19 Sep 2011   #4

Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Home SP3
 
 

this is different info from what I have understood since the earliest days of Windows 7.... are you saying that:
1. pop a fresh, new, formatted drive into 0 position
2. pickup the Windows 7 system image from an attached drive
3. press the restore or whatever button...
4. Reboot and the drive will come up and activate immediately? just like the one that crashed [minus iterative changes of course] ???
if so, why does everyone use other packages to do this?? it would seem the aftermarket would die

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
You use the "system image" component of backup. I used it to image my 1TB seagate, when I moved instead to a 1TB Western Digital. Worked just fine.
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19 Sep 2011   #5

Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Home SP3
 
 

is it just my understanding of English, or is this really illogical:
"2. If you are "Not Able to Boot" into Windows 7
A) If you have the system image backup save to an external device, be sure that it is connected now.

B) Open a command prompt at boot."
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19 Sep 2011   #6

Windows 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

Not that i would ever question Brink ... That looks correct to me...

Line B.) states "Open a command prompt at boot"....

The part "command prompt at boot" happens to be a link to - Command Prompt at Startup which shows you how to boot in safe mode.

If you can't boot at all then there is more than likely a bigger underlining problem.

Regards,
JDobbsy1987
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19 Sep 2011   #7

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19 Sep 2011   #8

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Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zapp22 View Post
if so, why does everyone use other packages to do this?? it would seem the aftermarket would die
The aftermarket programs are alive and well because of certain issues with the built-in product.

It isn't particularly intuitive to a new user. The interface is way too busy.

It is cranky about re-naming or re-locating saved images.

Microsoft didn't implement it correctly in my opinion. The package contains both"imaging" and "file by file backup" capabilities. I think they should have made a clear-cut distinction between those 2 capabilities and separated them into different and uncluttered interfaces.

I guess they wanted to dumb it down for those inexperienced with imaging and backup, but they only made it more complex than it needs to be.
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19 Sep 2011   #9

Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Home SP3
 
 

it looks like we're in violent agreement.
"not able to boot" means the system is "not able to boot", because the drive is "not able to boot", and has no idea what "open a command line prompt" might be.
unless Windows 7 is living in the ether and able to communicate without media

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JDobbsy1987 View Post
Not that i would ever question Brink ... That looks correct to me...

Line B.) states "Open a command prompt at boot"....

The part "command prompt at boot" happens to be a link to - Command Prompt at Startup which shows you how to boot in safe mode.

If you can't boot at all then there is more than likely a bigger underlining problem.

Regards,
JDobbsy1987
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19 Sep 2011   #10

Windows Home Premium 64- bit(6.1,Build 7600) SP1
 
 

My impression is that you can boot with the repair cd and restore the image that you saved with the win 7 backup to a hd or partition. That image is a clone of the hd, with all your programs and data, and is bootable. The win 7 backup gives you the opportunity to create a repair cd.
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