| Windows 7: Windows 7 Backup Fails to Start |
06 Oct 2011
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#11 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 Utah |

Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear When you go Control Panel/Backup and Restore and let us know if you see the device you are trying to put your backup on. I see a disk icon with a red X next to it and (D) Disconnected. BUT, (D) is not disconnected. And if I try to change the settings, I get the same error. I also uninstalled the (D) disk in device manager and rebooted so Windows would re-install it.
I have been doing a lot of experimenting with backups, making images, clones, etc. I think I made an image with Windows 7 Backup on (D) and then some time later I formatted (D).
Regards, Jim | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Puget Custom Computers OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 CPU Intel Core i7 QUAD CORE 930 2.8 GHz Motherboard Asus P6X58D Premium Memory Kingston DDR3-1333 6GB Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 5700 1GB Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 226 BW Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Microsoft Wirelsss 3000 Mouse Kensington Expert Mouse K64325 PSU Antec CP-850 850 Watt Case Antec P183 Cooling Gelid Tranquillo Hard Drives 2 Western Digital Cavier Blue 500GB Internet Speed 20 Mbps |
06 Oct 2011
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#12 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |
A disk icon with a red X should not affect the operation over on the left "Create a System image". When you select "Create a system image" Windows goes looking for available partitions to store an image. You are not locked into any partition which may have been setup in the regular Backup schedule settings.
"Change Settings" allows you to select another backup location for your file/folder backups (and image if you have that box ticked). Unless you explicitly assign a letter to an external HDD partition, the letter may change next time you connect the HDD. This would give you a red X.
I wouldn't expect "Change Settings" or the red X to have an impact on your specific problem.
If you have access to another external HDD with plenty of space do you still get an error? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
06 Oct 2011
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#13 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 Utah |

Quote: Originally Posted by mjf A disk icon with a red X should not affect the operation over on the left "Create a System image". When you select "Create a system image" Windows goes looking for available partitions to store an image. You are not locked into any partition which may have been setup in the regular Backup schedule settings.
"Change Settings" allows you to select another backup location for your file/folder backups (and image if you have that box ticked). Unless you explicitly assign a letter to an external HDD partition, the letter may change next time you connect the HDD. This would give you a red X.
I wouldn't expect "Change Settings" or the red X to have an impact on your specific problem.
If you have access to another external HDD with plenty of space do you still get an error? "Change Settings" results in the same error. I am not able to do any action on the Backup page. Pushing any button on that page results in the same error. The "D" drive has 500GB of free space.
Thanks for your continued help, Jim | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Puget Custom Computers OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 CPU Intel Core i7 QUAD CORE 930 2.8 GHz Motherboard Asus P6X58D Premium Memory Kingston DDR3-1333 6GB Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 5700 1GB Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 226 BW Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Microsoft Wirelsss 3000 Mouse Kensington Expert Mouse K64325 PSU Antec CP-850 850 Watt Case Antec P183 Cooling Gelid Tranquillo Hard Drives 2 Western Digital Cavier Blue 500GB Internet Speed 20 Mbps |
06 Oct 2011
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#14 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |
Maybe you could post a full Disk management screen shot showing all attached HDDs. Screenshots and Files - Upload and Post in Seven Forums
I was basically saying that I wouldn't have expected the "change settings and the red cross to affect the problem you are describing. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
06 Oct 2011
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#15 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
A red X does mean something. It means that the system (IT Department) or Windows 7 doesn't understand or allow what you are trying to do. A post as mjf requested would help. That is why I request to unhook the drive and hook it back up. It sound like a I.T. Department problem to me. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
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06 Oct 2011
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#16 | | MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit Austin, Texas |
Hawkeye,
Please post a pic of your disk management display.
Pay careful attention to this write-up, especially the part about dragging the field separators so that no field is truncated. HOW TO POST A SNAPSHOT OF DISK MANAGEMENT DISPLAY Run disk management: WIN | type DISKMGMT.MSC | ENTER
WIN is the key with the wavy flag. Maximize the output of Disk Management: ALT-Spacebar key combo (this pops up a menu) followed by X key (selects Maximize) |
Drag the field separators (such as between Status and Capacity) to show entire field. This is very important, otherwise, needed info is not visible. Make a snapshot: WIN | type SNIPPING | ENTER | New
Drag the cursor around the area you want to snip. File | Save as | select save location and name | Save
Post the snapshot: Upload a File or Screenshot in Seven Forums | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop OS MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit CPU AMD A10-4600M Motherboard AMD Pumori (Socket FT1) Memory 6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7660G Sound Card High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz) Screen Resolution 1600x900@60Hz Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410 Hard Drives SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device Internet Speed What the local pub, local coffee shop offers. Other Info Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device
Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed. |
07 Oct 2011
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#17 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |
Here is a current screenshot from my main PC. 
The red cross (inside the green region) means nothing when it comes to "Create a System Image" (inside the yellow region). I make images this way ALL the time.
It means that until I plug in my HDD (partition in fact) assigned the letter "P" I cannot run a "File/folder" backup unless I change the default location using "Change settings"
I have said all this before. This is not an opinion guys this is a fact.
My understanding all along is that the OP is talking about doing a "Create a system image" - inside the yellow highlighted area. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
07 Oct 2011
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#18 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 Utah |
OK guys, here are two snips, Disk Management and Disk Backup. Drive "G" is a clone of drive "C" which I made with Macrium Reflect. Drive "D" was used in the past to make an image of "C" with Windows 7 Backup, but I formatted it after some experimenting with some other backup software. (Macrium Reflect and Acronis.)
Since I uninstalled "D" with Device Manager and rebooted so Windows would re-install it, what additional benefit would be derived from physically removing and re-installing it? I really don't want to take the box out of the cabinet, open the case, disconnect the drive, etc, etc, unless absolutely necessary.
Pressing any key on the Backup page results in the Server failed to connect 0x80080005 error. Create an image on the left panel or trying to change any setting, etc. all result in the error message. Edit: Actually anything that needs to start Backup fails. I can turn on and off the schedule, look for another backup image, etc.
Thanks for all of the help, Jim | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Puget Custom Computers OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 CPU Intel Core i7 QUAD CORE 930 2.8 GHz Motherboard Asus P6X58D Premium Memory Kingston DDR3-1333 6GB Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 5700 1GB Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 226 BW Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Microsoft Wirelsss 3000 Mouse Kensington Expert Mouse K64325 PSU Antec CP-850 850 Watt Case Antec P183 Cooling Gelid Tranquillo Hard Drives 2 Western Digital Cavier Blue 500GB Internet Speed 20 Mbps |
07 Oct 2011
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#19 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |
Maybe I missed it but Disk 2 is new information. You need to be careful and it is generally not a good idea to have 2 "cloned" disks connected at the same time.
You can try the following:
1) disconnect disk 2 and make sure your PC still boots
2) Reassign a new volume letter to disk 1 (D: ) ....say G
3) reboot
4) go back into "change settings" and see what happens | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
07 Oct 2011
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#20 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 Utah |

Quote: Originally Posted by mjf Maybe I missed it but Disk 2 is new information. You need to be careful and it is generally not a good idea to have 2 "cloned" disks connected at the same time.
You can try the following:
1) disconnect disk 2 and make sure your PC still boots
2) Reassign a new volume letter to disk 1 (D: ) ....say G
3) reboot
4) go back into "change settings" and see what happens OK done, "change settings" brings up Backup which still fails with the same error message.
I put "G" drive in service to see if Backup would recognize it as a place to put images. It doesn't. I usually have "G" powered down. It is connected to an external SATA port and has a separate power supply, so all I have to do is turn off the power to the enclosure.
This is very frustrating. I am very disappointed in Windows 7. Seems to be way too fragile. I even tried the Upgrade Install to try and "fix" Windows 7 by the method shown on this forum. When I used Vista SP 2 as compatibility mode, the install failed with message that Windows 7 Professional could not be upgraded to Windows 7 Professional. And when I tried with Windows 7 compatibility mode it failed with a message that installed version is newer than the upgrade. So, I can't do any install except a fresh install which I would very much like to avoid.
Thanks for your continued help, Jim | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Puget Custom Computers OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 CPU Intel Core i7 QUAD CORE 930 2.8 GHz Motherboard Asus P6X58D Premium Memory Kingston DDR3-1333 6GB Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 5700 1GB Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 226 BW Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Microsoft Wirelsss 3000 Mouse Kensington Expert Mouse K64325 PSU Antec CP-850 850 Watt Case Antec P183 Cooling Gelid Tranquillo Hard Drives 2 Western Digital Cavier Blue 500GB Internet Speed 20 Mbps Windows 7 Backup Fails to Start problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:39 AM. | |