| Windows 7: Storing external hard drive in a safe |
16 Oct 2011
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#1 | | Windows Professional 64-bit |
Storing external hard drive in a safe I'm planning to buy an external hard drive to back up some of my files. I have also considered some good measures on keeping my back in a good location. I have seen that a lot of stores carry safes for the storage of what ever is important. Is it okay to store an external hard drive along with other digital media in a safe? Will the external drive wear down with it being in such an enclosed place? | My System Specs |
| OS Windows Professional 64-bit |
16 Oct 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
I suspect a safe would be as good a choice as any to store a drive in assuming the temperature was acceptable.
But--I think you should try to keep at least one set of backups at a completely different location than your PC if possible.
The safe might prevent a theft, but it won't protect you from fire, flood, etc.
And if the safe is small enough to be stolen, it's useless anyway. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
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17 Oct 2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic I suspect a safe would be as good a choice as any to store a drive in assuming the temperature was acceptable.
But--I think you should try to keep at least one set of backups at a completely different location than your PC if possible.
The safe might prevent a theft, but it won't protect you from fire, flood, etc.
And if the safe is small enough to be stolen, it's useless anyway. You can get safes that do this - for a limited time period at least - and some can be fixed in place. I use a portable one for my backups but that I know is vulnerable to theft. At least I have the option of taking it with me if necessary. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Compaq desktop OS Windows 7 x64 SP1 CPU Athlon II x2 215 Memory 4.0 GB Graphics Card Onboard Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi Titanium HD (nice) Monitor(s) Displays 24" Dell LCD Screen Resolution 1900 x 1200 Keyboard USB Mouse USB PSU 430w Hard Drives 320 GB, 500 GB and 750 GB 7200 rpm Internet Speed approx 10 Mbps |
17 Oct 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit Fantasyland |
The question is: Do you want to protect the drive or do you want to prevent the data on it from being stolen?
If you don't care about the physical drive being stolen then encryption might be a better answer. TrueCrypt - Free Open-Source On-The-Fly Disk Encryption Software for Windows 7/Vista/XP, Mac OS X and Linux | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom-built OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz, overclocked to 2.7GHz Motherboard Asus PL5D2 Memory 4GB DDR2-667 (4x1GB in dual-channel config) Graphics Card nVidia GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic Monitor(s) Displays Acer Screen Resolution 1920x1200 (DVI) Keyboard Standard Mouse Microsoft wireless optical mouse PSU Antec TruePower 2.0 Case Cooler Master Centurion Cooling various fans Hard Drives OCZ SSD Vertex Plus 60GB SATA (Firmware 3.55), 64MB cache
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17 Oct 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Massachusetts |
The only way an external drive wears down while not in use is excessive heat, moisture or strong magnetic fields.
I store all backups for the whole company in a safe on site. (plus one set off site). We do that for now over 15 years without the slightest problem. (Granted that's a safe you couldn't even move with a fork lift  I personally don't trust encryption since I'm not convinced that the backup would be usable in each and every odd situation (say your hardware totally changes because the building burned down, or for some reason a bit on the HDD flipped in a critical area etc.) That data is vital for the existence of the company and I'm not willing to take any chances.
For less important stuff it'll be fine to have one set stored away and perhaps another set in grandma's dresser 
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17 Oct 2011
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#6 | | Windows Professional 64-bit |
Nice, I appreciate the feedback from all of you. I do realize they sell fire proof safes at reasonable prices. I know portable safes can also be stolen more easier, but I plan on storing it in a safe location and probably embed it in a fixed spot. | My System Specs | | OS Windows Professional 64-bit |
17 Oct 2011
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#7 | | |
For me, I prefer to keep the data off site. I keep 2 external hard drives and I always have at least 1 that is offsite. A fire rated safe is better than not having one, but you have to be aware that they are only fireproof for a limited amount of time. For example, Quote: This First Alert 2.13 cubic foot fire safe is UL classified for 1 hour to withstand an external temperature of 1700 degrees Fahrenheit while maintaining an internal temperature of less than 350 degrees. The safe has been tested by an independent testing lab and verified to protect digital media including memory sticks, CD’s, DVD’s and external hard drives. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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17 Oct 2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SLC, UT. |
Get a good fire rated safe. There are also ways to prevent theft as many safes have options like being able to bolt them to the floor from the inside. Especially to something substantial like a concrete floor in a secure location that isn't the wiring closet. Do your best to secure this area and disguise the safe in a cabinet or something.
A good backup plan as so many of these folks have pointed out is critical if you really value your data. the 3-2-1 rule for example.. 3 copies of your data, on 2 different types of media, with 1 existing in an offsite location. A very effective and very simple method.
Thanks for reading...
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17 Oct 2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit Fantasyland |

Quote: Originally Posted by SledgeDG I personally don't trust encryption since I'm not convinced that the backup would be usable in each and every odd situation (say your hardware totally changes because the building burned down, or for some reason a bit on the HDD flipped in a critical area etc.) That data is vital for the existence of the company and I'm not willing to take any chances. You're entitled to your opinion of course  and it's probably wise since you're responsible for an entire company's data - but I do trust it completely and feel that I have no need to worry about the risk of corruption. Each 16-byte block of data is individually encrypted, so even if one bit should flip, it only affects a fraction of a sector on the disk. If a bit flips on an unencrypted sector, it'll throw a checksum error, and that happens practically never... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom-built OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz, overclocked to 2.7GHz Motherboard Asus PL5D2 Memory 4GB DDR2-667 (4x1GB in dual-channel config) Graphics Card nVidia GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic Monitor(s) Displays Acer Screen Resolution 1920x1200 (DVI) Keyboard Standard Mouse Microsoft wireless optical mouse PSU Antec TruePower 2.0 Case Cooler Master Centurion Cooling various fans Hard Drives OCZ SSD Vertex Plus 60GB SATA (Firmware 3.55), 64MB cache
Hitachi HD321KJ SATA, 320GB, 7200rpm, 16MB cache Internet Speed DSL; ~330KB/sec down, ~110KB/sec up Other Info Have a laptop too :) (Compaq CQ60 also with Win7 Pro SP1 32-bit)
Drives in both systems:
C: - Windows 7 + apps. Pagefile is fixed size and located at the very end of the partition.
D: - various temp files/cache for Firefox and apps/games.
E: - videos, music, misc. storage, torrent downloads, etc. |
17 Oct 2011
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#10 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |
In theory a metal safe should act as a Faraday cage protecting your HDD from external electromagnetic waves. Probably good for really long term storage. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 Storing external hard drive in a safe problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:49 AM. | |