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Windows 7: another Macrium question


05 Nov 2011   #1

Windows 7 home premium 64 bit sp2
 
 
another Macrium question

OK, I have to admit I am confused on my first attempt at a backup using Macrium reflect.

1) please take a look at the attached screenshot to see how my drives are configured

2) Neither of the WD external drives will be backed up, so I know I need to uncheck those boxes. the 3tb drive is what will store the backups. I realize I must choose that as the destination.

3) on my internal physical 1 tb c:drive, windows is loaded on it and all my programs, drivers and some data is also on this physical disc.

4) the Internal seagate drive 2 tb stores all my other data.

5) My objective is that I want everything backed up, windows, programs, data,... everything... so if my c drive or anyother drive fails, I can restore and not lose anything or have to reload programs/plugins ect.

So here is where I am confused and my questions

1) You have 2 options..." Image all local drives on this computer" or "create an image of the partitions required to back up an restore windows

2) I choose the second option, create an image ...to back up windows. The wizard only really showed my c:drive and the partitions associated with it. It made a backup that was successful.

Questions:

1) What I am not sure about is did this image I just created (when choosing the 2nd option) JUST do the windows files and nothing else on the c:drive ? Were my programs and other data imaged as well.

2) Am I now supposed to choose the first option (which brings up all the drives) and should I keep the c:drive and system stuff selected along with the other drives I want to back up?

I was hoping that you would just pick an option and it would back up everything that you have selected INCLUDING all windows files to reload the operating system. But it appears that you need to make 2 images each time you want to do a back up.

Any help in clarifying my misunderstandings using this program would be appreciated - Carl




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06 Nov 2011   #2

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Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by harleynut97 View Post

3) on my internal physical 1 tb c:drive, windows is loaded on it and all my programs, drivers and some data is also on this physical disc.

5) My objective is that I want everything backed up, windows, programs, data,... everything... so if my c drive or anyother drive fails, I can restore and not lose anything or have to reload programs/plugins ect.


1) You have 2 options..." Image all local drives on this computer" or "create an image of the partitions required to back up an restore windows

2) I choose the second option, create an image ...to back up windows. The wizard only really showed my c:drive and the partitions associated with it. It made a backup that was successful.

Questions:

1) What I am not sure about is did this image I just created (when choosing the 2nd option) JUST do the windows files and nothing else on the c:drive ? Were my programs and other data imaged as well.

2) Am I now supposed to choose the first option (which brings up all the drives) and should I keep the c:drive and system stuff selected along with the other drives I want to back up?

I was hoping that you would just pick an option and it would back up everything that you have selected INCLUDING all windows files to reload the operating system. But it appears that you need to make 2 images each time you want to do a back up.

Any help in clarifying my misunderstandings using this program would be appreciated - Carl
No to both of your questions.

If the C partition was chosen to be in the image, then ALL of C is included---Windows, installed applications, licensing info, configuration info, the kitchen sink, etc. Whatever is on C is in the image.

The only reason you would need to image more than C is if you ever wanted to restore more than C via Macrium. As I understand it, you do not.

I'm not sure about your small "system" partition of about 40 MB since I don't have such a partition. It should be imaged, but I am not sure if the way to do it is to include it in the same image as C or to make a separate image of it alone.

You should make absolutely sure that you make a Linux boot disk within Macrium and that it in fact will boot and that you can thereby see both your hard drive partitions and the image file you have made. Macrium is useless without this working boot disk.

What is that on the D drive "image backup"?? I assume that is unrelated? You shouldn't store your image of C on the same physical drive as C because if that physical drive fails, you lose both C and the image of C.
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06 Nov 2011   #3

Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit
 
 

It would be better to choose the first option, the one that lets you choose from all disks/partitions.

When backing up your Windows system (the rightmost partition on the first disk), you should include the small leftmost partition (SYSTEM) at the same time. That's what boots Windows and if it ever goes missing, then you can use the Windows setup DVD to repair boot files but it can be a major pain in the...*cough* You know.

You're free to image the Windows partition and the SYSTEM partition separately, but you should still backup/restore them together, during the same session, just to avoid any possible inconsistencies.

All other partitions, you're free to choose which one you want to back up and whether to image them separately or along with your Windows image.

Macrium, like all imaging software, operates only on the basis of whole partitions. It'll never cherry-pick files from within a partition so you don't have to worry about files not being backed up that are on the same partition as Windows (all your installed software and data files).
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06 Nov 2011   #4

Windows 7 home premium 64 bit sp2
 
 

Thanks, ignatzatsonic and Corazon for clearing up my misunderstandings. To answer your question regarding that 40 mb small partition, when I bought the computer it had only 1 physical drive. I added the 2 tb seagate internal drive after purchasing. The manufacture partitioned a small section to allow the computer to be restored to "factory default" It shipped with a rescue disc. When making backups, I will always choose to include this partition as well as everything else on my physical drive which holds my operating system.

If I'm understanding everything correctly, when making my backups, I should just use that first option,"image all local drives" , make sure that all partitions and drives are checked (including the system partition) and then make the backup.

I have made a Macrium windows PE rescue disc per what the program recommended. I had to download a pretty large file from MS and then burn the disc. But I did see the Linux option you mentioned. Should I also make a linux disc as well to be on the safe side? , It's no problem to do it. I'm not sure how to test it to make sure that it does in fact boot properly. Let me know when time allows.

Thanks again for clearing things up for me. - Carl
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06 Nov 2011   #5

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Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by harleynut97 View Post

If I'm understanding everything correctly, when making my backups, I should just use that first option,"image all local drives" , make sure that all partitions and drives are checked (including the system partition) and then make the backup.

I have made a Macrium windows PE rescue disc per what the program recommended. I had to download a pretty large file from MS and then burn the disc. But I did see the Linux option you mentioned. Should I also make a linux disc as well to be on the safe side? , It's no problem to do it. I'm not sure how to test it to make sure that it does in fact boot properly.
Re your first paragraph: if you choose "image all local drives", I would assume that will select ALL partitions on ALL internal drives (probably not externals?). Is that what you want to image and possibly restore? I would NOT want to have an image which contained BOTH C and any data partitions. You can certainly make multiple images.

You certainly ought to experiment with the process so you know exactly what is going on.

Re your second paragraph: There is no harm in having both a Windows PE rescue disk and a Linux rescue disk. Who knows when one of them might fail and it can't hurt to have another boot disc. To test them to boot properly, you set your BIOS to boot from the DVD drive first, insert the burned disc in the DVD drive, and reboot. If it doesn't boot and take you into the image restoration process where you can see all partitions and your image file, it is useless.
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08 Nov 2011   #6

Win7 Pro 32-bit, Win8 Pro 32-bit
 
 

To add ... if you purchased your copy of MR, you should look into the MR System Recovery boot option.

This comes only with the paid version, but it provides the ability to boot from your hard drive and run RM restores -- without having to use CDs. They used to bundle it separately and it was a pain to install, sometimes requiring that you download the WAIK as part of it. But they now bundle it with the paid version, and all you do is click a menu option, when you open MR, to install it.
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