| Windows 7: Looking for a good way to mirror + backup personal files |
15 Dec 2011
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Looking for a good way to mirror + backup personal files As the subject implies, I'm trying to find the best way to 1) create a disk image for disaster recovery + 2) synchronize folders and files to protect against accidental deletion, erroneous save-overs, transferring to another computer, etc. I have a 1 Tb external hard drive which is plenty of space for me to use for both. - Can be either one program that performs both functions, or two separate programs.
- I don't want automatic backups, since I plan to store my external drive in a fireproof safe soon.
- I need the sync'd files to be browse-able (not contained in a single image file)...just like a flash drive basically.
- I would like something that only backs up new files or ones that have been changed (to cut back on backup time...but maybe this is standard for syncing and mirroring programs. ??)
- Needs to be able to handle long file names
- A nice GUI
- Cost - free to low (I'd pay up to $30ish...but free would be great)
I was thinking of using Windows 7 Backup & Restore for the disk imaging, and then SyncToy for the file/folder syncing...but is this the best option?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Jo | My System Specs |
| OS Win7 Home Premium 64 bit |
15 Dec 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by joflo723 As the subject implies, I'm trying to find the best way to 1) create a disk image for disaster recovery + 2) synchronize folders and files to protect against accidental deletion, erroneous save-overs, transferring to another computer, etc. I have a 1 Tb external hard drive which is plenty of space for me to use for both. - Can be either one program that performs both functions, or two separate programs.
- I don't want automatic backups, since I plan to store my external drive in a fireproof safe soon.
- I need the sync'd files to be browse-able (not contained in a single image file)...just like a flash drive basically.
- I would like something that only backs up new files or ones that have been changed (to cut back on backup time...but maybe this is standard for syncing and mirroring programs. ??)
- A nice GUI
- Cost - free to low (I'd pay up to $30ish...but free would be great)
I was thinking of using Windows 7 Backup & Restore for the disk imaging, and then SyncToy for the file/folder syncing...but is this the best option?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Jo Synctoy is among the better choices for file/folder.
If you are willing to spend 30, look at Second Copy, from Centered Systems. Free 30 day trial; excellent layout and GUI; intuitive; quick; under continual development for over 10 years. It is strictly file/folder for your personal data--a competitor to Synctoy.
Imaging for Windows: Windows Backup and Restore works if you can learn and live with its idiosyncrasies. Macrium Reflect Free is probably the more popular choice here.
I assume you know that most imaging programs allow you to drill into the created image file and extract individual files as needed.
Yes, any file/folder tool worth a damn will only backup files that have changed or are new since the last backup. The first backup might take hours---subsequent backups more likely take seconds or a couple of minutes. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
15 Dec 2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit Virginia |
I use the built in Windows Backup and Restore, since I can just use the install disc to run the restore process. It can be used to created images or just backup certain folders. As stated above Macrium Reflect is VERY popular. Both would be worth looking at. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba P775-S7100 OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit CPU Intel Core i5-2450M @2.5 GHz Memory 6 GB DDR3 1333MHz Graphics Card Intel HD 3000 Monitor(s) Displays Built-in 17.3" LED; 22" Insignia NS-L22Q-10A Screen Resolution 1600x900; 1360x768 Hard Drives 750 GB Hitachi
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Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic
Synctoy is among the better choices for file/folder.
If you are willing to spend 30, look at Second Copy, from Centered Systems. Free 30 day trial; excellent layout and GUI; intuitive; quick; under continual development for over 10 years. It is strictly file/folder for your personal data--a competitor to Synctoy.
Imaging for Windows: Windows Backup and Restore works if you can learn and live with its idiosyncrasies. Macrium Reflect Free is probably the more popular choice here.
I assume you know that most imaging programs allow you to drill into the created image file and extract individual files as needed.
Yes, any file/folder tool worth a damn will only backup files that have changed or are new since the last backup. The first backup might take hours---subsequent backups more likely take seconds or a couple of minutes. Thank you for that information. I'll check out Second Copy.
Yes, I do understand that most imaging programs allow you to extract individual files...it just always seems so tedious. Plus, it won't work if I take it to another computer that doesn't have that backup program installed, correct?
Jo | My System Specs | | OS Win7 Home Premium 64 bit |
15 Dec 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center 64bit Covington, La |
I use Macrium Reflect Free for the OS and SyncToy for my data files. In SyncToy I use the Echo option as any changes done to my data files are then updated on the back up. I run it on a manual basis about once a week.
Jim | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center 64bit CPU Phenom II X6 1100T Motherboard ASUS M5A99X EVO Memory Crucial Balistic 8gb DDR3-1866 CL9 Graphics Card MSI R6850 Cyclone IGD5 PE Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VE258Q 25" LED with DVI-HDMI-DisplayPort Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K120 Mouse Logitech Marble Mouse USB, Logitech Precision Game Pad PSU Seasonic X650 80 Plus GOLD Modular Case Corsair 400R Cooling Antec Kuhler H2O 620, Two 120mm and four 140mm Hard Drives Two WD Cavier Black 2TB Sata III, WD My Book Essential 2TB USB 3.0 Internet Speed 15MB Antivirus Norton IS 2012, Malwarebytes Pro Browser IE-10, FF-19 Other Info APC UPS ES 750, Netgear WNR3500L Gigabit & Wireless N Router with SamKnows Test Program, Motorola SB6120 Gigabit Cable Modem. Brother HL-2170W Laser Printer, Epson V300 Scanner |
15 Dec 2011
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#6 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |
Actually I would recommend you use both Windows own imaging and Macrium. Maybe more of one than the other. A full system reimage is the acid test so hedge your bets is my advice. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by Petey7 I use the built in Windows Backup and Restore, since I can just use the install disc to run the restore process. It can be used to created images or just backup certain folders. As stated above Macrium Reflect is VERY popular. Both would be worth looking at. Thank you for responding. This may need to be a separate thread, but you mentioned the actual restore process, which made me wonder...let's say I have a mirror image of my disk, and my hard drive fails. Is the process really as simple as just reinstalling windows, and then using the backup and restore utility to get your computer back to how it was before the hard drive died?
Jo | My System Specs | | OS Win7 Home Premium 64 bit |
15 Dec 2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by mjf Actually I would recommend you use both Windows own imaging and Macrium. Maybe more of one than the other. A full system reimage is the acid test so hedge your bets is my advice. Thanks. What does one do that the other does not?
Jo | My System Specs | | OS Win7 Home Premium 64 bit |
15 Dec 2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by joflo723 
Quote: Originally Posted by mjf Actually I would recommend you use both Windows own imaging and Macrium. Maybe more of one than the other. A full system reimage is the acid test so hedge your bets is my advice. Thanks. What does one do that the other does not?
Jo Nothing worth mentioning, to the extent they are infallible.
The problem is, both are fallible.
It's like a soldier carrying two guns. A fallback position. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
15 Dec 2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit Virginia |

Quote: Originally Posted by joflo723 Thank you for responding. This may need to be a separate thread, but you mentioned the actual restore process, which made me wonder...let's say I have a mirror image of my disk, and my hard drive fails. Is the process really as simple as just reinstalling windows, and then using the backup and restore utility to get your computer back to how it was before the hard drive died?
Jo Its actually even simpler than that. Have the location of your backup plugged into the computer. Boot from the Windows 7 Installation or recovery disc. After selecting your language options, click Repair Your Computer. Select System Image Recovery. It's pretty simple from there. Once you select the image to be recovered it will take 30 or so minutes (depending on image size) to restore the image to your computer. You can then restart the computer and boot into Windows normally. Your computer will be exactly as it was at the moment you created the system image. Remember, in order for this to work the hard drive you are restoring the image to has to be the same size or larger than the original. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba P775-S7100 OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit CPU Intel Core i5-2450M @2.5 GHz Memory 6 GB DDR3 1333MHz Graphics Card Intel HD 3000 Monitor(s) Displays Built-in 17.3" LED; 22" Insignia NS-L22Q-10A Screen Resolution 1600x900; 1360x768 Hard Drives 750 GB Hitachi
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