| Windows 7: Non-System Disk Identified as System Disk |
25 Jan 2012
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Non-System Disk Identified as System Disk I was going to make a disk image of a fresh Windows 7/64 install but when attempting to do so using the windows utility it insists on labeling and including in the image a completely separate data-only disk claiming it is also a system disk. Unfortunately it will not allow me to un-check for purposes of exclusion.
Probably should be looking at the root of the problem and determine why this Data Disk is labeled a System Disk. It is an older drive and has been used in a couple computer builds so may have at one time had an OS installed but I can find no indication of such, plus, I usually format before re-purposing.
Any insight on either route for resolution would be appreciated. | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Assembly OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU Intel i5 3570K Motherboard ASUS P8Z77-V LK Memory 2x-4Gb Crucial Ballistix Sport PC3-12800 (1600) Graphics Card MSI GTX 650Ti PE 1GB Sound Card Realtek ALC892 (onboard) Monitor(s) Displays Hanns-G HZ281H (HDMI); Acer S201HL (DVI) Screen Resolution Hanns-G 1920x1200; Acer 1600x900 Keyboard Dell QuietKey Mouse Logitech Trackball +4button PSU Antec HCG-400 Cooling CPU-Stock, Case 1-120mm Scythe & 1-80mm CM Hard Drives intel 330 180GB SSD; WD 640 Blue - WD6400AAKS Internet Speed 50/15 Mbps cable Antivirus Avast! |
25 Jan 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
I can't recall the details, but in the last few weeks there has been a post or 2 here about similar issues. It seems Windows imaging app has its own idea about what qualifies as a system disc and therefore insists that it be included in a system backup.
There may not be any resolution other than to choose another imaging app. This lack of flexibility is one of the primary complaints about Windows own imaging. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
25 Jan 2012
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Much appreciate the quick reply ignatzatsonic!
Not unexpected to hear a bundled software might be just a bit lacking. Will migrate to a dedicated utility, was just hoping to keep streamlined.
Also feel a bit embarrassed. Having attempted Google searches for this query and coming up with no hits I simply assumed it was unique thus I failed to due my due diligence and search this forum prior to posting. Thanks for not flaming! | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Assembly OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU Intel i5 3570K Motherboard ASUS P8Z77-V LK Memory 2x-4Gb Crucial Ballistix Sport PC3-12800 (1600) Graphics Card MSI GTX 650Ti PE 1GB Sound Card Realtek ALC892 (onboard) Monitor(s) Displays Hanns-G HZ281H (HDMI); Acer S201HL (DVI) Screen Resolution Hanns-G 1920x1200; Acer 1600x900 Keyboard Dell QuietKey Mouse Logitech Trackball +4button PSU Antec HCG-400 Cooling CPU-Stock, Case 1-120mm Scythe & 1-80mm CM Hard Drives intel 330 180GB SSD; WD 640 Blue - WD6400AAKS Internet Speed 50/15 Mbps cable Antivirus Avast! |
25 Jan 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
Depending on your inclinations, you could dig into that disk to find out what files are on it that make Windows think it is a system disc. It's probably fairly obvious, but it could be hidden files or even a partition of some type.
Or just cut your losses and move on to Macrium, Acronis, or EaseUS TODO. That's what many of us on this forum have done. Maybe Microsoft will engineer Windows Backup a bit differently in future releases, but it is a bit touchy, non-intuitive, and inflexible as it now stands. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
25 Jan 2012
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Thanks again!
I feel more a fool each time I post. I just un-hide sys folders/files (which I thought I already did) and now see a "Boot" folder and "bootmgr" file, the likely culprits. As they will not allow direct deletion I'll have to do a bit of research on taking ownership - Not studied much all the security obstacles implimented from Vista on.
Appreciate your having urged me in the correct direction. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Assembly OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU Intel i5 3570K Motherboard ASUS P8Z77-V LK Memory 2x-4Gb Crucial Ballistix Sport PC3-12800 (1600) Graphics Card MSI GTX 650Ti PE 1GB Sound Card Realtek ALC892 (onboard) Monitor(s) Displays Hanns-G HZ281H (HDMI); Acer S201HL (DVI) Screen Resolution Hanns-G 1920x1200; Acer 1600x900 Keyboard Dell QuietKey Mouse Logitech Trackball +4button PSU Antec HCG-400 Cooling CPU-Stock, Case 1-120mm Scythe & 1-80mm CM Hard Drives intel 330 180GB SSD; WD 640 Blue - WD6400AAKS Internet Speed 50/15 Mbps cable Antivirus Avast! |
25 Jan 2012
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#6 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Move the bootmgr from the data disk to C:. Then you may have more luck: Bootmgr - Move to C:\ with EasyBCD
But using Windows imaging is not a good choice. Try this: Imaging with free Macrium But move the bootmgr first else you will have a problem when you need to restore. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
25 Jan 2012
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Thanks for the reply whs!
Well, I learned permissions prior to reading your post and hastily began deleting the files even though I fleeting thought it might be good to check boot record directors. As my luck goes, upon rebooting after deletion I was greeted with a stalled boot screen advising no boot record could be found. Why it would have associated or installed any boot files there is a mystery. No biggie though as I had not yet begun to install apps beyond the core OS, Win updates and drivers.
Just completed a clean install with all other drives disabled. Simply for grins I went through the motions with MS imager and it performed as it should. That said, I still think I'll migrate to Macrium Std for purposes of flexibility. Two good things come from this -- I am now quite comfortable with permissioning and, the second install was even cleaner.
Thanks again for the helpful replies from all! | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Assembly OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU Intel i5 3570K Motherboard ASUS P8Z77-V LK Memory 2x-4Gb Crucial Ballistix Sport PC3-12800 (1600) Graphics Card MSI GTX 650Ti PE 1GB Sound Card Realtek ALC892 (onboard) Monitor(s) Displays Hanns-G HZ281H (HDMI); Acer S201HL (DVI) Screen Resolution Hanns-G 1920x1200; Acer 1600x900 Keyboard Dell QuietKey Mouse Logitech Trackball +4button PSU Antec HCG-400 Cooling CPU-Stock, Case 1-120mm Scythe & 1-80mm CM Hard Drives intel 330 180GB SSD; WD 640 Blue - WD6400AAKS Internet Speed 50/15 Mbps cable Antivirus Avast! Non-System Disk Identified as System Disk problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:05 PM. | |