| Windows 7: Can I Pause/Turn off System Restore WITHOUT losing restore points? |
18 Apr 2012
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#1 | | XP, Vista, W7, all flavors |
Can I Pause/Turn off System Restore WITHOUT losing restore points? I work with a large software suite. The installer for this suite is really just a collection of many stand-alone installers.
If SR is on when I run the installation, it takes a very long time. Additionally, since this is a collection of other installers, SR is somewhat useless to use as a roll-back, since all of my RPs get replaced with intermediate points from the uber-installer.
The company itself suggests turning off SR so that things won't take so long.
Last time I installed this, something went wrong. I was unable to use or uninstall this software, and I was unable to roll-back the system since the SRs were gone.
Currently, my method is to create a full system backup before I run this installer. A pain in the neck.
Is there a way to save my RPs and then turn off SR while I run this? If something goes wrong, I could then apply the saved RP? Mainly, I am concerned about customer systems where I won't be able to create this backup.
Also, while I appreciate any comments or suggestions about the pain-in-the-neck software suite, there is truly nothing I can do about that. They are getting better with each release, but in the meantime I am stuck with it.
Thanks! | My System Specs |
| OS XP, Vista, W7, all flavors |
18 Apr 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit Peterborough, England |
If you turn off system restore you will lose all restore points.
As far as I know there is no way of saving them and reinstating them if you switch system restore back on. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Elite 495UK OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz Motherboard MSI 2A9C (CPU1) Memory 8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP2310i Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless M180 mouse PSU 460W Case HP Elite Cooling Air cooled Hard Drives 1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage Internet Speed 2Mb Other Info Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop |
18 Apr 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Pro with SP1 32bit Gurgaon, India |
I think that when you turn off the Restore Points, Windows clears and releases the space that it has reserved for Restoration. Therefore as Seavixen32 has pointed out there is no way to keep the Restore Points after turning off System Restore. But you do gain a lot of reserved space for your use on the HDD.
Last edited by wanchoo; 19 Apr 2012 at 03:45 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Pro with SP1 32bit Motherboard Intel D845GVS1 X86-based PC Memory 2 gigs of RAM Graphics Card Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller Sound Card Realtek AC'97 Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 931BF Black 19" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1280X960 Keyboard COMPAQ Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse iBall Laser Precise Speedster Hard Drives 1. SAMSUNG SP0822N ATA Device ~ 80 GigaBytes
2. Seagate FreeAgent Go USB Device ~ 500 GigaBytes Internet Speed 4 mb/sec |
19 Apr 2012
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#4 | | MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit Austin, Texas |
ultralame,
The quick answer is: YES, you will lose your restore points.
The long answer:
Do NOT turn off System Restore. This is Win 7 and not XP or Vista.
The extra time is of no consequence. The extra space if not that much. You can verify this by first checking the amount of space used before and install and then checking the amount of space after. WIN | type RESTORE POINT | ENTER |
CONFIGURE button | Current Usage shows the amount used WIN=key with Microsoft logo on top | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop OS MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit CPU AMD A10-4600M Motherboard AMD Pumori (Socket FT1) Memory 6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7660G Sound Card High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz) Screen Resolution 1600x900@60Hz Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410 Hard Drives SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device Internet Speed What the local pub, local coffee shop offers. Other Info Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device
Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed. |
19 Apr 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Pro with SP1 32bit Gurgaon, India |
It would be quite proper to turn off System Restore if you back-up with drive images. Wouldn't it?
In fact I have kept System Restore turned off since I started backing up with drive images about 5 years back. And there has been no repercussions at all. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Pro with SP1 32bit Motherboard Intel D845GVS1 X86-based PC Memory 2 gigs of RAM Graphics Card Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller Sound Card Realtek AC'97 Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 931BF Black 19" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1280X960 Keyboard COMPAQ Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse iBall Laser Precise Speedster Hard Drives 1. SAMSUNG SP0822N ATA Device ~ 80 GigaBytes
2. Seagate FreeAgent Go USB Device ~ 500 GigaBytes Internet Speed 4 mb/sec |
19 Apr 2012
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#6 | | MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit Austin, Texas |
wanchoo,
System restore is painless and not time-consuming. I use both system restore points and system images. They both have their function and uses. The fluidity of my system has resulted in restore points being extremely useful. I'm glad to hear that your needs are met by system imaging. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop OS MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit CPU AMD A10-4600M Motherboard AMD Pumori (Socket FT1) Memory 6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7660G Sound Card High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz) Screen Resolution 1600x900@60Hz Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410 Hard Drives SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device Internet Speed What the local pub, local coffee shop offers. Other Info Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device
Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed. |
19 Apr 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit Peterborough, England |
System restore has got me out of trouble on more than one occasion and with today's large hard drives I see no point in turning it off just to save a relatively small amount of drive space.
I also have system image backups, which I've never had occasion to use.
It comes down to a matter of choice really. Both have their merits and I believe both should be used. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Elite 495UK OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz Motherboard MSI 2A9C (CPU1) Memory 8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP2310i Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless M180 mouse PSU 460W Case HP Elite Cooling Air cooled Hard Drives 1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage Internet Speed 2Mb Other Info Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop |
19 Apr 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 home premium x64 |
Or just as a thought, create an image of the system drive now, kept somewhere safe, check it then turn off system restore. Yes if things go wrong you have to restore the image, but you wont loose anything. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS Windows 7 home premium x64 CPU AMD FX-4100 AM3+ 3.6GHz 12MB Black Edition Motherboard Asus M5A97 Pro Memory Crsair vengeance 12Gb DDR3 1600MHz CL9 Graphics Card Asus GTX 560 1GB Sound Card Realtek onboard Monitor(s) Displays Hanns G 1680x1050 native PSU OCZ StealthXstream II 500W Hard Drives OCZ 128Gb Petrol ssd
2x500 Gb Samsung Internet Speed 8Mb or better |
19 Apr 2012
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#9 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 SecretCity |
To rollback use to restore point of uber-installer so th oldest one. you can't pause system restore, because restore points contain the OLD information (for rollback purposes). It doesn't use a lot of space because only later overwritten blocks are saved. Actually it's only remapped to the restore point. It isn't a degrade in performace as well!!
Only initializing a restore point takes some time. It's the way it is! But making an image backup takes much longer to create!
How many subinstallers do you have?
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If you disable system restore, access disk form winxp, access disk from linux...... restore points are invalid so deleted automatically. | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number ACER ASPIRE 5742G OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz Motherboard Acer Aspire 5742G Memory 4,00 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series Sound Card (1) AMD High Definition Audio Device (2) Realtek High Defi Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz Hard Drives WDC WD5000BEVT-22ZAT0 Can I Pause/Turn off System Restore WITHOUT losing restore points? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:50 PM. | |