How to Clone a Windows 7 Partition to a new Hard Drive?

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  1. ignatzatsonic
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    chobo2 said:
    whs said:
    I would do that a bit differently.

    1. Move the bootmgr from your 100MB Work system to the C partition of the Work system on the 1TB drive. Bootmgr - Move to C:\ with EasyBCD. With the 100MB partition out of the way, things will be easier.

    2. Image the C partition of your Work system. Acronis is as good as any for that job.

    3. Create an active primary partition on the SSD for the C partition of the Work system.

    4. Restore your image into that partition. I am not certain if Acronis will adjust the partition size. If not, you will have to shrink the Work C partition on the 1TB drive to the size of the partition you created on the SSD before you image that C partition.

    5. Create a second partition on the SSD. That can be a logical or primary but must not be marked active.

    6. Install your private Win7 into that partition. The installer will pickup the active partition of the Work system and place the BCD there. Disconnect the 1TB drive and all other possible drives during that installation process.

    Hopefully you have enough space on the SSD for 2 OS partitions. If you need further details on the above steps, post back.
    1. Move the bootmgr from your 100MB Work system to the C partition of the Work system on the 1TB drive. Bootmgr - Move to C:\ with EasyBCD. With the 100MB partition out of the way, things will be easier.

    Hi

    I am confused with step 1. You want me to load into my work partition on my 1TB drive. Copy the bootmgr and where should I copy it too my SSD drive?
    WHS wants you to move the contents of the System Reserved partition on the Work system to C of the work system, using the tool at the link he gave. The goal being to get rid of the System Reserved partition. If the boot files are on C, then System Reserved is unnecesary.

    DON'T copy it to your SSD.

    As far as screenshots of Disk Management goes, the more complete the better. Ideally, show all partitions on all drives.
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  3. Kaktussoft
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    chobo2 said:
    Kaktussoft said:
    Post screenshot of disk management
    When I am able to access the computer. HDD one or SDD?
    Preferable SSD but HDD is good as well
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  4. whs
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    Once you moved the bootmgr in your 1TB instalklation from the 100MB partition to C, then you do not need the 100MB partition any more. When you image/restore the C partition to SSD, the bootmgr will be on C. No further action required. That system alone should boot. At least it always did when I moved my OS to SSDs.
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  6. Kaktussoft
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    whs said:
    Once you moved the bootmgr in your 1TB instalklation from the 100MB partition to C, then you do not need the 100MB partition any more. When you image/restore the C partition to SSD, the bootmgr will be on C. No further action required. That system alone should boot. At least it always did when I moved my OS to SSDs.
    Almost correct. 100MB system reserved only needed if bootmgr is there. but also if you use bitlocker. This is not the case I assume. So you're right.

    If you do it the way you say the bootmenu will be on SSD ... but still pointing to old HDD.

    We still don't know if he has a system reserved btw (didn't read it in post). Also don't know what partition is flagged active (so has bootmenu)
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  7. chobo2
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    Kaktussoft said:
    whs said:
    Once you moved the bootmgr in your 1TB instalklation from the 100MB partition to C, then you do not need the 100MB partition any more. When you image/restore the C partition to SSD, the bootmgr will be on C. No further action required. That system alone should boot. At least it always did when I moved my OS to SSDs.
    Almost correct. 100MB system reserved only needed if bootmgr is there. but also if you use bitlocker. This is not the case I assume. So you're right.

    If you do it the way you say the bootmenu will be on SSD ... but still pointing to old HDD.

    We still don't know if he has a system reserved btw (didn't read it in post). Also don't know what partition is flagged active (so has bootmenu)
    Sorry I am still quite confused. First I think we should put some names to all these partitions

    HDD-P = 1Tb hard drive with windows 7 ultimate - personal
    HDD-W = 1Tb hard drive with windows 7 pro - work
    SSD-P = 180 GB solid state drive - personal
    SSD-W = 180 GB solid state drive - work

    HDD-P
    -100 GB of usable space ~40 to 50gb used.
    - On boot this one the default choice.

    HDD-W
    100 GB of usuable space ~40 to 50gb used.

    SSD-P
    - 60 GB of usable space - Probably less than 5gb uses (fresh install)
    - This should be the active partition on the drive.

    SSD-W
    - 100 GB of usable space - When I tired to copy HHD-W to SSD-W through acronis I had to make the partition the same size and was not marked "active"
    - When this failed I tried driveImage XML and cloned the HDD-W over top the SSD-W what overrode the partition. This gave me the same failed result as Acronis.

    If I have both HDD and SSD plugged in my HDD boot manager seems to win and will be choosen.

    Right now I SSD only plugged in so it boots into that. When it boots up I see in the boot manager the same choices as the HDD one.

    Personal
    Work

    If I choose personal everything works as it was a fresh install.
    If I choose work it loads up to the login screen and when I try to log in I never get past the ""setting up personalized settings for: web platform customizations".

    I can load into my work machine through safe mode however I don't see any my files what should be on the desktop. Windows also warns that the account I logged into is corrupt or something like that(the message is long and don't remember).

    It seems like the partition is sort of there but not 100%.
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  8. whs
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    If you do it the way you say the bootmenu will be on SSD ... but still
    pointing to old HDD
    It will not be pointing to the HDD. If e.g. you disconnect the HDD, the SSD will boot. But you are right in that there will still be a copy of the bootmgr on the HDD in the 100MB partition because with the procedure outlined in my tutorial you do not really move the bootmgr, you only copy it.

    And you are right. He never mentioned the 100MB partition. But from the context of his troubles I assume that this is the cause of his problem. He just did not image and restore that partition.

    PS> Your previous posting is useful, but a Disk Management picture would be better. In your list you do not mention the 100MB active partition. But that you can only see in Disk Management because it is hidden (no drive letter).
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  10. ignatzatsonic
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    chobo2 said:
    Kaktussoft said:
    whs said:
    Once you moved the bootmgr in your 1TB instalklation from the 100MB partition to C, then you do not need the 100MB partition any more. When you image/restore the C partition to SSD, the bootmgr will be on C. No further action required. That system alone should boot. At least it always did when I moved my OS to SSDs.
    Almost correct. 100MB system reserved only needed if bootmgr is there. but also if you use bitlocker. This is not the case I assume. So you're right.

    If you do it the way you say the bootmenu will be on SSD ... but still pointing to old HDD.

    We still don't know if he has a system reserved btw (didn't read it in post). Also don't know what partition is flagged active (so has bootmenu)
    Sorry I am still quite confused. First I think we should put some names to all these partitions

    HDD-P = 1Tb hard drive with windows 7 ultimate - personal
    HDD-W = 1Tb hard drive with windows 7 pro - work
    SSD-P = 180 GB solid state drive - personal
    SSD-W = 180 GB solid state drive - work

    HDD-P
    -100 GB of usable space ~40 to 50gb used.
    - On boot this one the default choice.

    HDD-W
    100 GB of usuable space ~40 to 50gb used.

    SSD-P
    - 60 GB of usable space - Probably less than 5gb uses (fresh install)
    - This should be the active partition on the drive.

    SSD-W
    - 100 GB of usable space - When I tired to copy HHD-W to SSD-W through acronis I had to make the partition the same size and was not marked "active"
    - When this failed I tried driveImage XML and cloned the HDD-W over top the SSD-W what overrode the partition. This gave me the same failed result as Acronis.

    If I have both HDD and SSD plugged in my HDD boot manager seems to win and will be choosen.

    Right now I SSD only plugged in so it boots into that. When it boots up I see in the boot manager the same choices as the HDD one.

    Personal
    Work

    If I choose personal everything works as it was a fresh install.
    If I choose work it loads up to the login screen and when I try to log in I never get past the ""setting up personalized settings for: web platform customizations".

    I can load into my work machine through safe mode however I don't see any my files what should be on the desktop. Windows also warns that the account I logged into is corrupt or something like that(the message is long and don't remember).

    It seems like the partition is sort of there but not 100%.
    Where is the screen shot we have been asking for many times over?

    We don't just need to know about hard drives and operating systems.

    We need to know about partitions, thus the repeated request for screen shots.
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  11. Kaktussoft
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    whs said:

    If you do it the way you say the bootmenu will be on SSD ... but still
    pointing to old HDD
    It will not be pointing to the HDD. If e.g. you disconnect the HDD, the SSD will boot. But you are right in that there will still be a copy of the bootmgr on the HDD in the 100MB partition because with the procedure outlined in my tutorial you do not really move the bootmgr, you only copy it.

    And you are right. He never mentioned the 100MB partition. But from the context of his troubles I assume that this is the cause of his problem. He just did not image and restore that partition.

    PS> Your previous posting is useful, but a Disk Management picture would be better. In your list you do not mention the 100MB active partition. But that you can only see in Disk Management because it is hidden (no drive letter).
    What happens if you change the "disk signature"? What happens if you move the OS-partition (starting sector of partition)? you have to do a startup repair!

    same bcdedit ouput:
    Windows-opstartlaadprogramma
    ----------------------------
    id {current}
    device partition=C:
    path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
    description Windows 7 Home Premium
    locale nl-NL
    inherit {bootloadersettings}
    recoverysequence {56fa818f-89ee-11e1-be91-e9fb9a7089cc}
    recoveryenabled Yes
    osdevice partition=C:
    systemroot \Windows
    resumeobject {fa1a7f9d-ab26-11df-bc4f-ce7145d50d35}
    nx OptIn

    It looks like system boots to OS on C: but actually it only displays C:
    In bcdmenu-file it's actually saved as \disksignature\startsector_of_partition
    It's translated to C on-the-fly.
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  12. Kaktussoft
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    Please post screenshot of disk management with all fields visible (especially status)
    We asked for that about 6 times!
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  13. chobo2
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    Kaktussoft said:
    Please post screenshot of disk management with all fields visible (especially status)
    We asked for that about 6 times!
    And I said that when I am able to access the computer (ie when I physically can touch it). I will but right now I can't as I am no where near it.
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