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Windows 7: EASUS Free - Please guys DON'T CHANGE destination partition size


22 Apr 2012   #1

W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi
 
 
EASUS Free - Please guys DON'T CHANGE destination partition size

Hi there
Anybody still using Free versions of EASUS

Little nasty here in the product description
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EaseUS Disk Copy allows you to backup one partition to another. The two partitions are exactly same in each sector.
Attention Please:
1. The destination partition should be equal or larger than the source partition. Otherwise, the copied data may not keep intact.
2. If the size of destination partition is larger than source partition, after the copy finished, the size of destination partition will be changed to the same size as source partition and the rest space will be distributed into unallocated space.


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Now If I'm backing up a partition I might well WANT to move it to a larger one.

The Feature "Change to same size as the source" for me renders this program USELESS and why do it anyway -- requires extra programming and I'm sure reduces the flexibility of the program for NO BENEFITS WHATSOEVER.

Cheers
jimbo

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22 Apr 2012   #2

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Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Seems perfectly normal to me.

Copy the partition into the larger one. Then extend it.

Some partition managers offer copy with resize option - it is exactly the same thing -they copy then they extend it.

It is a very good product in my experience - no problems with it at all.
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22 Apr 2012   #3

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Agree with SIW2, this is a very common practice and extending the partition is the simple way to solve it.
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22 Apr 2012   #4

W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi
 
 

Hi there
My problem with this is then you need 2 Tools

Acronis just moves and re-sizes in one go.

If you are messing about with Virtual Machines and changing the system size partition - it means you have to boot the virtual machine3 times from recovery media (iso or image).

1) after creating the initial VM the disk is totally uninitialized so you need to boot a partition manager to create a partition and optionally format it.

2) you then have to boot your recovery software to restore the system partition

3) You then have to boot the partition manager again to re-size the restored partition.

Might not seem too bad - but with VM's when the recovery data is on network drives etc you want to get the machine up and running with as minimum of fuss as possible.

I prefer the Acronis approach -- give you the option to re-size the target partition. (Although it's not FREE software)

(You CAN create an accessible disk in VMware eliminating the first boot but it takes FOREVER in initializing say an 80 GB virtual drive. It's quicker to skip that step by a long shot as I need two virtual drives of this size as I'm testing a "Minisap" system with a largish DB in it).

Initialize the partitions with a Windows install disk or a partition manager -- no prob with that boot but I don't want to boot again after recovering the image to increase the partition size.

Cheers
jimbo
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22 Apr 2012   #5

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

You can stack operations - tell it to copy first, then tell it to extend , then Apply.

As far as I know all partition managers do that
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23 Apr 2012   #6

W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi
 
 

Hi there
I think you misread the post (or maybe I didn't explain it properly).

It's not about stacking the partition operations

It's FIRST you create a partition and optionally Format it

THEN you restore to the new partion (using your Backup software -- so a NEW JOB / STEP).

Then STEP 3 you call the partition manager AGAIN to re-size the partition that the backup software has changed from your original definition.

It's the STEP 3 I'm complaining about.

Backup software should re-size the partition during the restore if the user selects that option .

Cheers
jimbo
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23 Apr 2012   #7

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I think with any software, free or otherwise, there certainly will be things that don't work exactly as we want, need or hoped.

With a free software package like EaseUs...you might have to take a few extra steps to accomplish the same tasks that a commercial application can perform in 1 task. That's potentially part of the reason that the second tool is offered free of charge. Its up to you to decide whether the limitations imposed can be worked around.

With respect to this particular issue, I restore 99% of the time to the same partition or drive. So, this particular issue would not be an issue for me at all. In the 1 time that I had to extend a partition, an extra step isn't going to be a showstopper. For somebody else, they might restore 99% of the time to different sized partitions. So, they most likely might want another piece of software.


I personally use Acronis True Home 2010 over EaseUs because
1). Acronis is faster
2). Acronis resulted in smaller file sizes
3). Acronis offered Try & Decide..which I use from time to time.

These things above, made the $23.99 I spent on Acronis a good purchase.
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23 Apr 2012   #8
4wd

W8+8.1, W7 ult+hp, XP
 
 

Have been using the easeus programs for a long time, done all kinds of cloning \ backup \ restore with no trouble at all, and use (the excellent) easeus partition master to swiftly deal with any partitioning \ unallocated space or whatever needs to be done at the end. No problems here, just a happy user, and on top, it's for free.
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24 Apr 2012   #9

W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 4wd View Post
Have been using the easeus programs for a long time, done all kinds of cloning \ backup \ restore with no trouble at all, and use (the excellent) easeus partition master to swiftly deal with any partitioning \ unallocated space or whatever needs to be done at the end. No problems here, just a happy user, and on top, it's for free.
Hi there

You obviously haven't read or understood my original post.

The problem is Why should I have to reboot into a partition manager to resize the partition AFTER restoring a partition image from a backup.

I LIKE all you guys but please READ and understand the OP.

Cheers
jimbo
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24 Apr 2012   #10

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Backup software should re-size the partition during the restore if the user selects that option .

Cheers
jimbo
I this case though, you aren't even given that option, right? The product documentation says the partition will be created with unallocated space at the end and that is what it is doing.

I guess I am misunderstanding you. To me, it just seems like you don't like the way it works be default. And there is nothing wrong with that, just use another product. For some of us, this extra step is a non-issue and we will gladly take 1 extra step to accomplish the same end-result.
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