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Windows 7: Should System Protection be Enabled on a Data partition?

View Poll Results: Should System Restore be Enabled on a Data Partition
Yes, include data partition(s) 2 20.00%
No, only the OS/Programs partition 8 80.00%
Voters: 10. You may not vote on this poll

28 Apr 2012   #11
kado897

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Thank you Burdus. That is by a fair margin the most viewed of my videos.


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30 Apr 2012   #12
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Some very useful tutorials there kado,

I've now got ffs set for versioning now, very useful feature.

I was just wondering what the option for "Symbolic Link Handling" actually does? I've left it set to exclude. Not exactly sure what symbolic links are!
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30 Apr 2012   #13
kado897

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Thanks Burdus. For what It is worth here is the Wikipedia definition of a symbolic link. Symbolic link - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . In windows I think Junction Points are Symbolic Links.
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01 May 2012   #14
ignatzatsonic

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I'm with Hoppy and Seavixen.

My data partition is not subject to System Restore and is not imaged at all. But it is backed up in several ways, all using a file-by-file method of some type (drag and drop to an internal, via automated program to an internal, drag and drop to a USB thumb drive, drag and drop to an external sitting in a dock, etc). I have never lost a file since I got halfway serious about backups.

Unlike some, I have had excellent luck with System Restore generally. I use it perhaps 10 or 15 times a year and it has failed to restore successfully only 2 or 3 times out of maybe 80 or 100 attempts. It works well enough that I have never had to restore an image of C.

I've never clearly understood why it does not work well for some users.
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01 May 2012   #15
kado897

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In a lot of cases the AV is the culprit in failures. I too have had many successful SRs but only since I turned of Tamper protection in Norton immediately prior to the SR.
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01 May 2012   #16
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

The only problem I have had after a system restore is a black screen and just a cursor after logon. If I then reboot into safe mode and reboot again the system restore completes ok. It's only happened a couple of times in the past few years.
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03 May 2012   #17
GeneO

Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
 
 

It doesn't work too reliably anyway. I use Synctoy that permits me to back up what I want to multiple drives and it doesn't have the problem of propagating corruption - that, combined with checksumming data directories with cdcheck, saved a few of my photography images that were corrupted by a failing sector. In addition, the shadow copies are on the same disk and that doesn;t protect you from that disk failing.
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03 May 2012   #18
F5ing

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I read a few years ago how the CIA/FBI/NSA/etc. loved the new behavior of System Restore.

That said, although I've never had any problems with it and it has always worked (since XP), I've never turned it on for my data. I've got multiple versions of all data that goes back for decades.

When I work on or set up someone's machine I'll usually turn it on. Most folks that I know have no true concept of backup.

So for me, I didn't vote (as I don't use it myself, but do activate it for some other folks' machines).
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04 May 2012   #19
kado897

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GeneO View Post
It doesn't work too reliably anyway. I use Synctoy that permits me to back up what I want to multiple drives and it doesn't have the problem of propagating corruption - that, combined with checksumming data directories with cdcheck, saved a few of my photography images that were corrupted by a failing sector. In addition, the shadow copies are on the same disk and that doesn;t protect you from that disk failing.
I don't think anyone is suggesting that System Protection is a substitute for backups. It is just another tool in the armory. I helped a guy here last Sunday to recover accidentally deleted folders using Previous Versions.
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04 May 2012   #20
F5ing

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 View Post
I don't think anyone is suggesting that System Protection is a substitute for backups. It is just another tool in the armory. I helped a guy here last Sunday to recover accidentally deleted folders using Previous Versions.
+1

Additionally, System Restore is not a substitute for images.
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