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Windows 7: Hello people, I have several questions(Back up related)

07 Jun 2012   #1

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Hello people, I have several questions(Back up related)

Alright, my computer broke recently and I finally understood the time backups can save, I'm sort of inexperience but have some basic/high level understanding of the system, so I need some assistance from the kind experts here!

Question 1:

If you create a disk image and back up your harddisk, which has a size of 1TB, can the image be backed up to a harddisk of 1.5TB without side-effects?

What's actually going on when you restore a disc image?
What happens with the empty space as old partitions only uses the size you've set?

Question 2:

Although I've read that creating a disc image is like a 100% clone of your hard disk entirely, is this true?

Question 3:

If I've used tools such as those disc alignment/advance format tools on my harddrive, will this affect the backup in anyway should I restore a disc image to a hardrdrive that doesn't support advance format?



These questions are really hard to google so I decided to ask them here, I'm really grateful for any amount of support I'll get!

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07 Jun 2012   #2

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Hi Questions and welcome to Seven Forums.

To answer your questions.

1. Yes proveided there is sufficient free space on the 1.5 TB HDD. An image will normally take between 50-60% of the size of the data you are backing up. That is the used data not the size of the disk. The restore will return your disk to the state it was when you took the image.

2. It is not truly a clone as it doesn't normally back up unused storage but in effect it is a clone of all the data that is on your drive.

3. You don't need to worry about that. The image is just a file or files that contain enough information to put everything back the way it was when you do a restore.
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07 Jun 2012   #3

Windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

Alright, thanks for the assistance!

Right after you answered me, I bravely plugged in the docking station and attempted to created a disc image, only be to greeted by an error along the lines of:

There is not enough space to create the volume shadow copy... etc

The harddisk in the docking station has 1 partition of 1.5TB, none of which is used, is this error talking about space that isn't partitioned instead?
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07 Jun 2012   #4

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I think we have seen this problem before. I don't think it refers to the space on your external HDD but to the space on one of the partitions on your internal drive.

Could you post a screen shot of your disk management screen. Type disk management into the start menu search box and select the entry Create and format disk partitions. Maximize the display and follow this tutorial to post the screen shot. Screenshots and Files - Upload and Post in Seven Forums
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07 Jun 2012   #5

Windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

Size problem, give me a couple of minutes


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07 Jun 2012   #6

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I'm sorry. for some reason your images are corrupted.
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07 Jun 2012   #7

Windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

Finally got it to work, this forum doesn't like jpegs I think.

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07 Jun 2012   #8

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Yes that would be ok.
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07 Jun 2012   #9

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 View Post
I think we have seen this problem before. I don't think it refers to the space on your external HDD but to the space on one of the partitions on your internal drive.

Could you post a screen shot of your disk management screen. Type disk management into the start menu search box and select the entry Create and format disk partitions. Maximize the display and follow this tutorial to post the screen shot. Screenshots and Files - Upload and Post in Seven Forums
Keith I think you're on to something. As I always tell people, I'm not an expert at anything and my one remaining brain cell doesn't always work. But I seem to recall that the System Reserved partition needs a certain amount of free space in order for a VSS to be created. Likewise, if System Protection is turned off or doesn't have enough space allocated, the VSS can't be created. Does this sound familiar to you?

EDIT: Found this Technet forum thread. NehaaMSFT says the System Reserved partition needs 40MB free space. And jimg43 says he had to turn on System Protection and allocate a couple of GB free space. Yes, it's an older thread but I think the parameters still apply.

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07 Jun 2012   #10

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That was my thinking Lee.
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