| Windows 7: How big should a System Image be? |
27 Jun 2012
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#1 | | Win 7 Home Premium x64 A suburb of Chicago |
How big should a System Image be? Reading this thread got me concerned. Use whole Disk for Images?
I use a 500GB external drive to store my backups, both System Image and Data Files.
Going by the 30% maximum space Windows allots for System Images my drive can accomodate 150GB. Right now my System Image is 147GB. I believe this is only the most recent system image (see screenshots).
Is 147GB a reasonable size for a System Image or is something wrong? The entire C drive including data takes up about 174GB.
Searching around I see System Images of 25GB. How is that possible? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number HP p6608f OS Win 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Core i3-540 3.07 GHz Motherboard MS-7613 (Iona-GL8E) Memory 4 GB (2 X 2) Dual-Channel PC-10600 DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card Integrated Intel H57 Sound Card Integrated Realtek ALC888S Audio Monitor(s) Displays 17" SDM-HS73 (a vestige from my old computer) Screen Resolution 1280 X 1024 Keyboard HP USB keyboard Mouse HP USB optical mouse PSU 250W Hard Drives 750GB SATA 7200 RPM Internet Speed 15Mbps/1Mbps |
27 Jun 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
Many people put data on another partition and image only C.
A C drive containing only Windows and applications often has fewer than 50 GB occupied and an image of C alone typically takes a lot less than the occupied space. My C drive has 28 GB occupied and images of it take up about 12 GB.
Complicating this is the fact that Windows Backup has its own idea of what "system files" are.
I don't use Windows Backup. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
27 Jun 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |
Just my opinion:
Irrespective of your imaging software choice, 147 GB is far too large in general.
I think imaging is your ultimate safety net and should be able to be done and restored "relatively" quickly. My rule of thumb would be ~ 50 GB. This will take from about 10 min (USB 3 ext HDD) to 30 min (USB 2 ext HDD).
Your main imaged partition should contain your OS and installed programs. If you have large fairly static data then get it off this partition and back it up independently. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
27 Jun 2012
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#4 | | Win 7 Home Premium x64 A suburb of Chicago |
Thanks for the replies.
I am certainly not an advanced user. I used the default settings and stored my data on the C drive. Like millions of other PC users.
So now that I have lots of data when a System Image is made it includes all the data along with system files to the point that my System Image is approaching the limits for my external drive since Windows only allows for 30% of the drive be used for a SI.
It's interesting that in Backup and Restore the way it describes a System Image it seems to imply that only files needed to make windows run will be copied. Obviously that is not true.
Back to my problem. Unless I do something once I have 3GB more of data I will not have enough space on my external drive to accomodate a System Image. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP p6608f OS Win 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Core i3-540 3.07 GHz Motherboard MS-7613 (Iona-GL8E) Memory 4 GB (2 X 2) Dual-Channel PC-10600 DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card Integrated Intel H57 Sound Card Integrated Realtek ALC888S Audio Monitor(s) Displays 17" SDM-HS73 (a vestige from my old computer) Screen Resolution 1280 X 1024 Keyboard HP USB keyboard Mouse HP USB optical mouse PSU 250W Hard Drives 750GB SATA 7200 RPM Internet Speed 15Mbps/1Mbps |
27 Jun 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
Images typically include EVERYTHING on a partition--whether or not all of those files are needed for Windows to run.
It isn't a major ordeal to use 2 partitions---C for Windows and applications and D for data. It has several advantages, but you'll have to weigh that against whatever reluctance you have.
Any imaging program will image the C partition in its entirety, regardless of whether a given file is needed by Windows. So your data is going to be included in the C image, as long as it is on C.
Other imaging programs don't have the 150 GB limitation to which you refer. But imaging a 147 GB partition will still take up maybe 60 or 70 GB, regardless of what imaging program you use.
I wouldn't go very far out on a limb in expecting an image of my data files to be highly reliable as a backup. But maybe you are backing up your data files through some other method, outside of this image? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
28 Jun 2012
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#6 | | Win 7 Home Premium x64 A suburb of Chicago |
I guess I need to make a new partition and move my data to it and then I can image only the (then) smaller C: drive. But honestly I am VERY leery. I have a cursory knowledge about the process but many questions/concerns.
I probably should start a new thread. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP p6608f OS Win 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Core i3-540 3.07 GHz Motherboard MS-7613 (Iona-GL8E) Memory 4 GB (2 X 2) Dual-Channel PC-10600 DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card Integrated Intel H57 Sound Card Integrated Realtek ALC888S Audio Monitor(s) Displays 17" SDM-HS73 (a vestige from my old computer) Screen Resolution 1280 X 1024 Keyboard HP USB keyboard Mouse HP USB optical mouse PSU 250W Hard Drives 750GB SATA 7200 RPM Internet Speed 15Mbps/1Mbps |
28 Jun 2012
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When I first install my OS, run Windows Update, Activate the OS and then run an Image using something like Acronis True Image Home 2010, with compression, my image is around 5GB. Once I have my applications that I use installed, my images grow to around 10GB or so. (This contains no data, as I keep my data on a file server at home). Now that I have a few games installed, my images have grown to about 25-30GB. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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