diskpart/clean by accident....need to recover partitions,begging :'(

suspect008 · 05 Jul 2012

Yes, sure I will follow. And thank you.

F5ing - about restore, I didnt know that it could harm D and E, because it was all there and isn't restore also something like copy and paste. Thatz why I execute and I knew that macrium wouldnt touch anything rather than what was commanded to do. Then I asked to be more precise and got a okay and so I didnt wait.

Backups - yes I will keep a exdrive. But like I said, there are some data, I can't have a second copy. So, backup applies to 3/4 of data. Even once I had to ful format my disk, I copied it to my friend's hard and after finishing my work, first I shred them with folder lock and then used clean all for the entire drive.

About comment on SIW , It was for fun

i didn't mean any disrespect. It sounds fun the way he talks. So take it as a compliment.

About greg - yes, it is a little heartache to hear you tells me I lied. If it was geting the os back up again, I would just recover the table, then install some data recovery and would take as much as I can. This post wouldnt go over 50 comment. Now its 170 i gues.

Greg - Iam no expertise to your level. No way near :) but I think you should believe there is a chance if its not 'clean all' and if the user have not overwritten anything. Like me I didnt even boot a windows disk thinking that it would write even some few blocks. And this way, a lot has confirmed it to be work. And thank you very much for the safty of my data. I do get your point. It was a stupid act.

Finaly, yes I know the value here. 1st thing I learned was macrium from whs, kado, and ignatzatsonic. I knw each one of you go way end to help someone. So thank you all again.

gregrocker · 05 Jul 2012

You will not put words in my mouth. No one said you lied, as F5ing has already made clear to you. The point is that data that important to you should have been copied out at the first opportunity.

I am glad you got your data back. Enjoy Windows 7. .

suspect008 · 05 Jul 2012

thank you greg, I did not mean any offence to you. I admire you for your knowledge and skills. Look at that MVP mark and 25 000 posts record. would I b dare to question you? I myself dont think so. let us put this behind and go on. again thank you for everything. :)

gregrocker · 05 Jul 2012

You are welcome. We learned a very important lesson here about Diskpart Clean command being recoverable.

It will help countless others here and via web searches.

F5ing · 05 Jul 2012

suspect008 said:

F5ing - about restore, I didnt know that it could harm D and E, because it was all there and isn't restore also something like copy and paste. Thatz why I execute and I knew that macrium wouldnt touch anything rather than what was commanded to do. Then I asked to be more precise and got a okay and so I didnt wait.

No, not like copy/paste. Always a risk that something won't go right when writing to the MBR and partition table.

suspect008 said:

Backups - yes I will keep a exdrive. But like I said, there are some data, I can't have a second copy. So, backup applies to 3/4 of data. Even once I had to ful format my disk, I copied it to my friend's hard and after finishing my work, first I shred them with folder lock and then used clean all for the entire drive.

You can keep a second copy. Just use something like TrueCrypt - Free Open-Source On-The-Fly Disk Encryption Software for Windows 7/Vista/XP, Mac OS X and Linux.

suspect008 said:

About greg - yes, it is a little heartache to hear you tells me I lied. If it was geting the os back up again, I would just recover the table, then install some data recovery and would take as much as I can. This post wouldnt go over 50 comment. Now its 170 i gues.

Well, put it this way. You said that the data on there was the most important thing in your whole life. You'd die without it. Exaggerated maybe, but you get the idea. If that's really true you wouldn't see that person knowingly subjecting their data to even more risk.

When someone gives me a machine/disk to recover their "important" data I've got to treat it as "critically important". Before I "touch" it I check disk status and if okay make a clone. Cloning can take many hours because it's reading/copying every single bit, whether it's used or free space. Worth it knowing I've got a backup of what it looked like when it was given to me.

suspect008 said:

Greg - Iam no expertise to your level. No way near :) but I think you should believe there is a chance if its not 'clean all' and if the user have not overwritten anything. Like me I didnt even boot a windows disk thinking that it would write even some few blocks. And this way, a lot has confirmed it to be work. And thank you very much for the safty of my data. I do get your point. It was a stupid act.

But one never knows unless they "know". For me, I can read mounds of info and finally become "convinced" of something. But I'd not say I "know" until I reproduce it myself. And technology changes (disk types) and even functionality of a given command can change over the years. People sometimes get siloed into specialties and even then learn new stuff almost every day for the rest of their life.

So would you rather have the answer that you want or the answer that's honest?

suspect008 said:

Finaly, yes I know the value here. 1st thing I learned was macrium from whs, kado, and igsomzontias. I knw each one of you go way end to help someone. So thank you all again.

And you're welcome of course.

By the way, got a real question or two: when you finally had PW make the corrections to the disk how long did it actually take to do the write? Have you opened a bunch of your recovered files (you may have mentioned it but if so I missed it)?

EDIT: missed the last few posts before posting this...

suspect008 · 05 Jul 2012

thank you F5ing, thats really professional, I do not quote the comment as it would get very long.

so for the final question as its something more important, ' No, it didnt even took a minute to recover partitions first and and to run the rebuild mbr command. it was just click - apply - wait 10 seconds - done. I think its because it dint recover an entire partion, it just recovered the mbr and partition table as par to to my knowledge. dont know exactly though. and then, I cant open any files but to see them with their existence path and names and modified created dates with size. I think that bootable cd doesnt allow that feature. maybe windows version have that.

and about what I said to the greg about that chance of recovering, I do get your point sir. thats actually I didint thinking as a 3rd party whose trying to help. sure we need to take every precaution in a situation like that :) and I think I did mention the word 'Chance' there

thank you for correcting me.

and thank you for your valuable advises, I do take notice of all these and add them to my life. im not a big head to ignore and live by myself. thank you for helping me.

ryt now im thinking should I clean install windows just by formating C: and sys reserved or should I copy all these to some where else and then clean all my partitions, then re install. because I dont know and can't figure out why I am having these lags even after a image restore. this is 3rd tym I restored and ever time its same( 3rd time means not after this clean. like 1st was 3 weeks ago, 2nd was 2 weeks ago, and now.)

F5ing · 05 Jul 2012

suspect008 said:

so for the final question as its something more important, ' No, it didnt even took a minute to recover partitions first and and to run the rebuild mbr command. it was just click - apply - wait 10 seconds - done. I think its because it dint recover an entire partion, it just recovered the mbr and partition table as par to to my knowledge. dont know exactly though. and then, I cant open any files but to see them with their existence path and names and modified created dates with size. I think that bootable cd doesnt allow that feature. maybe windows version have that.

Just wanted to make sure because when you asked (when your power was out) I told you it should take a minute or less. I typically rely on Testdisk for this and when the corrections are made they go so fast (like maybe a second) it makes you think it didn't do anything. And you're right, it's not restoring the partition itself, only the definition for it so that it can be found and used.

suspect008 said:

ryt now im thinking should I clean install windows just by formating C: and sys reserved or should I copy all these to some where else and then clean all my partitions, then re install. because I dont know and can't figure out why I am having these lags even after a image restore. this is 3rd tym I restored and ever time its same( 3rd time means not after this clean. like 1st was 3 weeks ago, 2nd was 2 weeks ago, and now.)

Do as Greg just said, backup that data before trying to fix the OS. Once you've got your data backed up somewhere reliable, you can clean that disk and start fresh. Follow the tutorials he posted after you BACK UP.

suspect008 · 06 Jul 2012

yeah, I just awake. Haven't sleep much yesterday and day before

yes, I decided to stick with that plan. Now need a exhard for the work. Until then, I wil work like this. Thank you F5ing. Take care.

F5ing · 06 Jul 2012

suspect008 said:

yeah, I just awake. Haven't sleep much yesterday and day before

yes, I decided to stick with that plan. Now need a exhard for the work. Until then, I wil work like this. Thank you F5ing. Take care.

You too, and good luck!

Kaktussoft · 06 Jul 2012

gregrocker said:

You are welcome. We learned a very important lesson here about Diskpart Clean command being recoverable.

It will help countless others here and via web searches.

"Diskpart clean" just puts zeros in first megabyte of physical drive.
Sometimes (not always) partitions are aligned to the MB border so not in that area. Don't know where win7 starts the first partition by default. My partition starts at block 63.... so is unrecoverable after "clean"

C:\Windows\system32>diskpart
Microsoft DiskPart-versie 6.1.7601
Copyright (C) 1999-2008 Microsoft Corporation.
Op computer: LAPTOPRON
DISKPART> sel dis 0
Schijf 0 is nu de geselecteerde schijf.
DISKPART> list par
Partitie ### Type Grootte Offset
------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partitie 1 Primair 113 GB 32 KB
Partitie 0 Uitgebreid 352 GB 113 GB
Partitie 2 Logisch 352 GB 113 GB
DISKPART>