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Windows 7: W7 backup fails every time

06 Jul 2012   #11
HammerHead

win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1
 
 
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06 Jul 2012   #12
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sargan View Post
I did that - no issues .
Looked in event viewer for failure .. it gives extra comment that drive windows is installed on does not have enough free space drive and needs at least 400MB ....windows is on a 350GB partition with 196GB free .. so loads more space than needed.

So it is complaining about the source drive not destination drive.
Windows is conservative about the space required. If your backup configuration is "Let Windows Choose" then you may be attempting an image plus a file/folder backup. Try just attempting an image using the "Create a System Image" button.
By the way it appears you are using 154 GB. IMO this is way too large for regular imaging. I'd get a lot of your data onto a separate partition and try to get your OS partition used space down to ~50GB range. I'm guessing much of your data will be fairly static and another backup mechanism for it is worth considering.

Oh by the way Macrium is good and I use it along with Windows inbuilt.
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06 Jul 2012   #13
sargan

W7 64 bit ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
By the way it appears you are using 154 GB. IMO this is way too large for regular imaging. I'd get a lot of your data onto a separate partition and try to get your OS partition used space down to ~50GB range.
Oh by the way Macrium is good and I use it along with Windows inbuilt.

I have a seperate HDD for data & Apps ... and also have 'my documents, pic, music' on seperate physical HDD .

Windows paging file & Photoshop scratch disk also on this 2nd HDD
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06 Jul 2012   #14
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sargan View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
By the way it appears you are using 154 GB. IMO this is way too large for regular imaging. I'd get a lot of your data onto a separate partition and try to get your OS partition used space down to ~50GB range.
Oh by the way Macrium is good and I use it along with Windows inbuilt.

I have a seperate HDD for data & Apps ... and also have 'my documents, pic, music' on seperate physical HDD .

Windows paging file & Photoshop scratch disk also on this 2nd HDD
What's taking up the 154GB?
As a wild guess although windows doesn't store the pagefile contents in the image it certainly sees it as a system file and may want to include the partition it's stored on. Try moving it back to the OS partition.
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06 Jul 2012   #15
sargan

W7 64 bit ultimate
 
 

Moving it back to OS paftition would reduce performance.
Always been on seperate HDD ...
Previously backed up ok.
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06 Jul 2012   #16
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

I would still keep the pagefile on the OS partition. I'm not so sure about performance gain unless HDD #2 is a faster spinner.
You still haven't said what takes up the space on your OS drive. Is it games?
It seems that Windows is clearly telling you at this stage you don't have sufficient space to backup what it wants to backup. If it was ticking along nicely before then obviously you have changed something related to the size of the backup. The Macrium Reflect option may be the most pragmatic.

Someone else may be able to come along and shed more insight.
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07 Jul 2012   #17
sargan

W7 64 bit ultimate
 
 

OK ... my description has confused things.
I have the Paging file on same physical drive. but separate partition ... D:/ (OS is on C:/)

Although Microsoft support site states :

Move the paging file to a physical volume separate from the physical drive that operating system is installed on to reduce disk contention and increase disk performance

So maybe I should put paging file on E:/ ... certainly can't see any benefit to leaving it on C:/ if you have an alternative.
The drives are 7300 spin speeds.

The Photoshop scratch file is already on E:/ (physical different drive) as Adobe advise optimum performance can be obtained that way. (probably for same reason as Microsoft give for paging file)

On C:/ there is notionally only OS, and a couple of small apps that won't allow location to be elsewhere.
Actual size in use OS currently is 40GB ... so rest of that partition is empty. (198 GB)

I could reduce partition .. but don't see why it would gain me anything ?
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07 Jul 2012   #18
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Sargan,

It's just that with the page file set to be on another drive than that of your Windows drive, the entire drive that the page file is on will now also be included in a system image since it is now also considered to be a system drive.
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07 Jul 2012   #19
sargan

W7 64 bit ultimate
 
 

why would it need to back up paging file at all ? .... it's just scratch space so it should be treated same as unused HDD space and not backed up.
I could simply remove E:/ from the backup selection ?
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07 Jul 2012   #20
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

The page file is considered to be part of the Windows, or the system. A system image includes all of the system. Any drive that is considered to be part of the system cannot be removed from a system image. That's why the suggestion to move the page file back to your Windows 7 drive was made so that you wouldn't have the entire other drive included in the system image backup.
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