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Windows 7: Problem restoring Macrium image, please help!

27 Jul 2012   #21
anne1982

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

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Hello WHS,

Thanks for the information. I downloaded and used the (EasyBCD 2.1.2). According to the EasyBCD is the backup successful. Now, I am having a file in the C drive called (EasyBCD Backup (07-27-2012)). I do not see any changes on the picture of the Disk Manager! Do I have to do anything else or that is it. Is the odd setup fixed now?

Thanks & best regards,

Anne
Did you do this? Bootmgr - Move to C:\ with EasyBCD

Yes, I did it exactly as mentioned. The question: do I have to change anything now in the Bios?

Anne


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27 Jul 2012   #22
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

You are OK now. The little system partition remains. It is pretty useless now but it still contains the original copy of the bootmgr.

I suggest you change the BIOS boot sequence to boot from Disk1. If you do not do that, it will still boot via the bootmgr in the system partition. That in itself is not a problem, but the day you delete that system partition you would be stuck and would have to change the BIOS boot sequence then.

By changing the BIOS boot sequence you also get a good test whether the copy of the bootmgr to C has worked properly.
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27 Jul 2012   #23
anne1982

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
You are OK now. The little system partition remains. It is pretty useless now but it still contains the original copy of the bootmgr.

I suggest you change the BIOS boot sequence to boot from Disk1. If you do not do that, it will still boot via the bootmgr in the system partition. That in itself is not a problem, but the day you delete that system partition you would be stuck and would have to change the BIOS boot sequence then.

By changing the BIOS boot sequence you also get a good test whether the copy of the bootmgr to C has worked properly.

Hello WHS,

Went to the BIOS using F8 before the PC start getting two HD's to chose:

1. SATA: PM-WDC WD1002FAEX-00Y9A0
2. SATA: SM-WDC WD1002FAEX-00Y9A0

both are working fine.


Getting to the BIOS by pushing DEL bottom I can only have the following choices and that:


SATA: PM-WDC WD1002FAEX-00Y9A0
Or a DVD rom Station.

The choice of the other HD can not be seen.


Will be glad to know how to find out the C: HD from the two abovementioned drives and how to change the boot sequence permanently.

Thanks & regards,

Anne
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27 Jul 2012   #24
ignatzatsonic

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You could go into the BIOS and disable a random drive.

If you can then still boot with that drive disabled, the booted drive is the one with C. If you cannot boot, the disabled drive is the one with C.

You could do much the same thing by opening the case and unplugging a drive.

Ideally, you want the drive containing C to be the first in the boot sequence. There is a setting within the BIOS where you can arrange your boot devices in the order of your choice--you would likely set the drive with C as the first device and your DVD drive as the second choice.

I suspect the drive labeled PM-WDC contains the C partition.
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27 Jul 2012   #25
anne1982

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
You could go into the BIOS and disable a random drive.

If you can then still boot with that drive disabled, the booted drive is the one with C. If you cannot boot, the disabled drive is the one with C.

You could do much the same thing by opening the case and unplugging a drive.

Ideally, you want the drive containing C to be the first in the boot sequence. There is a setting within the BIOS where you can arrange your boot devices in the order of your choice--you would likely set the drive with C as the first device and your DVD drive as the second choice.

I suspect the drive labeled PM-WDC contains the C partition.

Hello ignatzatsonic,

By going to the BIOS via F8, I could chose between two HD's and both are working fine because I did not delete the system files from Drive 0. in other words drive C or the other drives can boot good.

I want to modify the BIOS in a way that the drive containing C to be the first in the boot sequence. Trying to do this by going to the BIOS via DEL bottom. The problem is that in this menu I can see only one drive (SATA: PM-WDC WD1002FAEX-00Y9A0). It looks that the BIOS does not know (at least for now) the second drive i.e. SATA: SM-WDC WD1002FAEX-00Y9A0.

The problem IMO is: The second drive should be known by the BIOS and then try to chose it as the first in the boot sequence.

Best regards,

Anne
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27 Jul 2012   #26
ignatzatsonic

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by anne1982 View Post

By going to the BIOS via F8, I could chose between two HD's and both are working fine because I did not delete the system files from Drive 0. in other words drive C or the other drives can boot good.



What brand PC is this?

I'll take your word for it that F8 leads you to the BIOS.

Are you familiar with BIOS navigation and changing settings in the BIOS?

You can temporarily disable a drive in the BIOS. That was what I suggested in my prior post.




I want to modify the BIOS in a way that the drive containing C to be the first in the boot sequence. Trying to do this by going to the BIOS via DEL bottom. The problem is that in this menu I can see only one drive (SATA: PM-WDC WD1002FAEX-00Y9A0). It looks that the BIOS does not know (at least for now) the second drive i.e. SATA: SM-WDC WD1002FAEX-00Y9A0.


If I understand you correctly, F8 leads to the BIOS, but the delete key leads you only to a menu? Those choices on that menu are asking you which you want to boot from--DVD drive or SATA: PM-WDC WD1002FAEX-00Y9A0 drive.

I would guess that this PM-WDC drive contains C, but am not positive. Thus, I offered you a way to test to find out---disabling a drive.

This menu is NOT the BIOS. It's only a menu.



The problem IMO is: The second drive should be known by the BIOS and then try to chose it as the first in the boot sequence.

I'm not quite following this. You said earlier that F8 leads you to the BIOS and that you can see BOTH drives.

If you can in fact get to the BIOS via F8 and can see both drives there, then you can certainly change the boot sequence in the BIOS or temporarily disable a drive as a test as I mentioned.

But I don't know if you have any experience with BIOS navigation or changing settings there. And I don't know what peculiarities might be found in your particular BIOS.



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27 Jul 2012   #27
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

This is a bit strange. In my Dell systems you get to the BIOS setuo via F2 and not F8 which usually gets you into recovery mode. Try F2 first.

If nothing else, try F12 with which you can change the boot order temporarily.
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27 Jul 2012   #28
anne1982

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Hello WHS & ignatzatsonic

The problem of changing the BIOS is solves. The boot device priority went via another menu called (Hard Disk drives) with the possibility to chose between HD1 or HD2. By changing the last then get automatically the second drive as a first boot device.

The question is: is there a way to know which HD on the Disk Management is corresponding to the HD's on the BIOS (except by opening the case and disconnect the wires). Is it possible to mark one of the (System Reserved partition) as non active and try to boot and find out from which disk is the PC booting?

Many thanks to you gentlemen for your advices and sorry to bother you so much.

Best regards,

Anne
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27 Jul 2012   #29
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by anne1982 View Post
The question is: is there a way to know which HD on the Disk Management is corresponding to the HD's on the BIOS
What EXACTLY do you see as a description of the 2 drives in the BIOS?
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27 Jul 2012   #30
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
2. The odd setup you have can be easily fixed. I suggest you move (copy) the bootmgr to C. Then you can forget about the system partition and you only have to image C. Bootmgr - Move to C:\ with EasyBCD
I have to disagree. Partition C: as shown in the OPs screenshot is the 2nd partition on the 2nd HDD (Disk 1). This is not a good place to put your OS.
It will end up being called C: but should be in the location E: on Disk 0 of your screenshot.
On a spinning HDD the OS and installed programs should be on the outer tracks of the HDD for speed.
Also I'm not sure that the EasyBCD solution will retain the F8 safe mode boot function but restoring the system reserved using x3 system repairs should retain the F8 function.

It is assumed that the OP still has the image to restore from. As I've said before don't have the 2 HDDs connected when doing this.

WHS your suggestion may be simpler and should work but I don't think it is ideal. Of course up to the OP.
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