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Windows 7: Problem restoring Macrium image, please help!

28 Jul 2012   #31
whs
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Mike, I appreciate your performance argument. But as things stand, Anne has to work with what she has got. A complete revamp of the disk assignments is a bigger task.

Anne, if you set disk1 as first in the BIOS boot order, then you can be certain that it will boot from Disk1. If you want to be double sure, keep tapping F12 after power-on. That will show you the boot order assignments.


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28 Jul 2012   #32
anne1982

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
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The question is: is there a way to know which HD on the Disk Management is corresponding to the HD's on the BIOS
What EXACTLY do you see as a description of the 2 drives in the BIOS?

Hello ignatzatsonic,

Picture 1, which I could get by pushing F8 in my computer, which can change the boot order temporarily. You see all the possible boot drives.

Picture 2 which I could get by pushing DEL in my computer, showing the first boot device BEFORE I changed it.

Picture 3 which I could get by pushing DEL in my computer, showing the first boot device AFTER I changed it.


Thanks & regards,

Anne


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28 Jul 2012   #33
anne1982

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2. The odd setup you have can be easily fixed. I suggest you move (copy) the bootmgr to C. Then you can forget about the system partition and you only have to image C. Bootmgr - Move to C:\ with EasyBCD
I have to disagree. Partition C: as shown in the OPs screenshot is the 2nd partition on the 2nd HDD (Disk 1). This is not a good place to put your OS.
It will end up being called C: but should be in the location E: on Disk 0 of your screenshot.
On a spinning HDD the OS and installed programs should be on the outer tracks of the HDD for speed.
Also I'm not sure that the EasyBCD solution will retain the F8 safe mode boot function but restoring the system reserved using x3 system repairs should retain the F8 function.

It is assumed that the OP still has the image to restore from. As I've said before don't have the 2 HDDs connected when doing this.

WHS your suggestion may be simpler and should work but I don't think it is ideal. Of course up to the OP.

Hello MJF,

Thanks for your advice. The question is: What is in your view the practical solution? For me, to be honest, managing enough time to re-install Windows 7 from the beginning is almost impossible!

Best regards,

Anne
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28 Jul 2012   #34
whs
Microsoft MVP

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I don't know what Mike had in mind. But one approach could be that you image both partitions, then clear the disk and assign new partitions with the OS partition as first partition on the HDD and then put the images back. But even that is a lot of work.

I suggest that you leave it as is for the time being. Maybe one day you have a spare $70 for a 60GB SSD to which you can transfer the OS. Then all performance concerns vanish and your system will get a LOT faster and snappier.
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28 Jul 2012   #35
anne1982

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Anne, if you set disk1 as first in the BIOS boot order, then you can be certain that it will boot from Disk1. If you want to be double sure, keep tapping F12 after power-on. That will show you the boot order assignments.
Hello WHS,

Many thanks for your advices. Booting from Disk1 or Disk2 is not problem because both are doing well. I think this is due to the fact that I did not delete the (System Reserved partition) from the first disk. In other words, both disks now are having a (System Reserved partition).

The question is: What is the safest way to backup the OS and the documents in this case? Is it better to do it separates or together? To be honest, I am afraid to be in the same situation of backing up everything regularly but when try to restore it, then it will fail.


Many thanks again for all of you for your patience and good advices.

Best regards,

Anne
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28 Jul 2012   #36
whs
Microsoft MVP

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Quote:
In other words, both disks now are having a (System Reserved partition).
This is not quite correct. The corect statement would be that both disks have a bootmgr. On disk0 it is in the system reserved partition and on disk1 it is on the C partition.

I recommend to keep the system reserved partition on disk0. It is the original of the bootmgr and can always be useful if something unexpected happens. But for normal daily operation you do not need it.

If you now make an image of C and later restore that image, C will boot (because it has the copy of the bootmgr). So C is "self contained". You must, of course, restore it to the original partition or to another primary active partition and the disk to which you restore must be first in the BIOS bootorder.

So you will not get the same situation as when you imaged the C partition but forgot the bootmgr which was in the system reserved at the time. Now the bootmgr is integral part of C.
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28 Jul 2012   #37
anne1982

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Quote:
In other words, both disks now are having a (System Reserved partition).
This is not quite correct. The corect statement would be that both disks have a bootmgr. On disk0 it is in the system reserved partition and on disk1 it is on the C partition.

I recommend to keep the system reserved partition on disk0. It is the original of the bootmgr and can always be useful if something unexpected happens. But for normal daily operation you do not need it.

If you now make an image of C and later restore that image, C will boot (because it has the copy of the bootmgr). So C is "self contained". You must, of course, restore it to the original partition or to another primary active partition and the disk to which you restore must be first in the BIOS bootorder.

So you will not get the same situation as when you imaged the C partition but forgot the bootmgr which was in the system reserved at the time. Now the bootmgr is integral part of C.

Hello WHS,

Thanks for the correction. As you see, I am not as professional in the computer as you and the other gentlemen.

I think the idea of having a small SSD for the OS is very good. Pity I did not know this before starting the installation. By the way, is it possible to image (backup) the C Drive and then restore it on the small SSD? or maybe I am asking too much!

Many thanks & best regards,

Anne
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28 Jul 2012   #38
whs
Microsoft MVP

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Yeah, that is very possible and quite easy. I even wrote a tutorial for that. The easiest way is to do it with the Paragon Migration tool - only 3 clicks. But even the 'geeky' way is not too difficult and well explained in my tutorial - I hope, LOL.
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28 Jul 2012   #39
Kaktussoft

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Yolu are using "system reserved" now!! Delete it or make it inactive!
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28 Jul 2012   #40
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Yolu are using "system reserved" now!! Delete it or make it inactive!
I don't think so. Anne set disk1 as first boot priority. Then the system reserved which is on disk0 plays no role.
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