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Windows 7: Windows/Linux dual-boot imaging using Macrium

06 Aug 2012   #11
SIW2

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Yep, that is why you need paragon file transfer wizard- you can get at the contents of the mint partition using it.


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06 Aug 2012   #12
Kaktussoft

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
MBR is win7 mbr and can easily be rebuilt using "startup repair" win7. It loads the volume boot sector of active partition (your win7 partition) and loads the bootmenu. In bootmenu is:

-win7. Start winload.exe from partition that start at sector 56234234 for example. Boot fails if you change the start sector of that partition. But "startup repair" will fix that problem.
-a special entry that loads neogrub (easybcd stuff). It's something like normal grub and uses a small file that says: chainload to "volume boot sector" of harddisk 1 partition 3 for example. If linuxmint still is in partition 3 it works after restore. Otherwise delete the menu option using easybcd and recreate it. chainloading means "jump to another bootloader". Then it loads the linuxmunt bootloader in partition 3.
If linuxmint is now in partition 4 you can still delete entry using easybcd and make it again.

But grub itselft in partition 4 has also a config file where linux is! It still points to partition 3! That should be fixed.
Do you understand?
After that boot from boot repair CD https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair and edit GRUB config. Just replace hd0,3 to hd0,4 in my example (replace all instances) , save it and boot.
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07 Aug 2012   #13
Golden
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Thanks for the replies guys - I must say though, its a bit over my head as I'm still coming to terms with various bootloaders, chainloading and GRUB.

Right now though, it seems as if I was mistaken : my understanding was that I could restore everything back to the way it was from the Macrium images, but it appears I am wrong (even if I restore both the Windows and Linux partitions precisely the same as existed at the time that the images were made).

Thats the bit I am struggling to understand : if the images of a working system are restored, why won't the system work as before?
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08 Aug 2012   #14
Kaktussoft

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Golden View Post
Thanks for the replies guys - I must say though, its a bit over my head as I'm still coming to terms with various bootloaders, chainloading and GRUB.

Right now though, it seems as if I was mistaken : my understanding was that I could restore everything back to the way it was from the Macrium images, but it appears I am wrong (even if I restore both the Windows and Linux partitions precisely the same as existed at the time that the images were made).

Thats the bit I am struggling to understand : if the images of a working system are restored, why won't the system work as before?
Are all partitions in the same order on disk as before?
Are all partitions still the same type as before (I mean logical or primary)?
Was the same partition flagged ACTIVE as before (it boots form that partition)?
Did win7 boot succesfully after restore (without doing repair tricks)?
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08 Aug 2012   #15
Kaktussoft

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Please post C:\NST\menu.lst
what else is in C:\NST folder?
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08 Aug 2012   #16
Golden
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Are all partitions in the same order on disk as before?
Yes, I restore C: first, then the Mint and Swap partitions
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Are all partitions still the same type as before (I mean logical or primary)?
Yes
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Was the same partition flagged ACTIVE as before (it boots form that partition)?
Umm....do you mean the C: partition? This is the partition I boot Windows from.
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Did win7 boot succesfully after restore (without doing repair tricks)?
Yes, perfect boot. No trouble.

In C:\NST, I don't have a menu.lst -I only have 2 x .mbr files:

AutoNeoGrub0.mbr - dated 02/08/2012 not sure why this file exists, date doesn't correspond?
AutoNeoGrub1.mbr - dated 06/08/2012 (date image restored)

I have attached them - these are typical contents:

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I have a hunch about the Macrium restore, so I am going to test something...........


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File Type: txt AutoNeoGrub0.txt (9.0 KB, 5 views)
File Type: txt AutoNeoGrub1.txt (9.0 KB, 3 views)
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08 Aug 2012   #17
Kaktussoft

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Did you remove linux from bootmenu using easybcd, and later recreated again?
AutoNeoGrub0.mbr and AutoNeoGrub1.mbr are actually the same. They refer to ang0 and the other to ang1 (on 4 places). But basic it's a generic thing.

In elevated command prompt:
Code:
bcdedit/enum all
Do you see AutoNeoGrub0 or AutoNeoGrub1 in the list, or both? If AutoNeoGrubx is not listed there then delete AutoNeoGrubx.mbr

Which one did you delete?
Do you have a file called ang0 or ang1. Most likely in root folder. check linux and win7
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09 Aug 2012   #18
Golden
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Hi,

Originally, I had a backup of the BCD prior to adding the Linux entry, so i restored that, and then added the Linux entry, but it still fails to boot Linux.

I see both an ANG0 and ANG1 in C:\

Using bcdedit /enum all, I see:
Code:
Real-mode Boot Sector
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identifier              {c2c5dd6a-dca7-11e1-8c3c-10bf480d8583}
device                  partition=C:
path                    \NST\AutoNeoGrub0.mbr
description             Linux Mint 13 x64
I deleted AutoNeoGrub1.mbr and also ANG1, and then rebooted. Linux still did not reboot.

Regards,
Golden
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10 Aug 2012   #19
Kaktussoft

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Post ANG0 please
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10 Aug 2012   #20
Kaktussoft

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Post /boot/grub/grub.cfg from linux as well
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