| Windows 7: is a backup of Win 7 install discs needed? |
08 Aug 2012
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is a backup of Win 7 install discs needed? I've been going through my house and insuring everything against fire/theft loss, and now I'm looking at my computer. My data is all backed up off-site in two ways. I have not previously tried to back up software install discs, but seeing as they could get torched in a fire, it would be nice to have a backup in some safe location.
Most of my expensive software is music software that uses dongle protection, so the install discs themselves aren't copy-protected and this should be easy.
But what about the Win 7 install disks? (I have both the 32-bit and 64-installers for Win 7 Home, in the upgrade version.) I also have some Windows XP disks from earlier on. Can these disks be copied simply as a data disk (i.e. look at the files they contain and copy to a new disk) or is there some copy protection scheme?
Or maybe I don't need to back them up. Does Microsoft have some policy of resupplying the disk if I can show the serial number or something like that?
Last edited by ratsrcute; 08 Aug 2012 at 11:29 AM..
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08 Aug 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |
ImgBurn will do it. Make an ISO and either just keep that or burn another DVD if you want. I cannot comment if MS have issues but of course the copy is useless without the key you paid for. Also, you can download the ISO if you get stuck. The real thing is to keep copies of your activation Key. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
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By the way, what I am doing is burning gold DVD-R as my backup, and I'll keep it off-site. At least some of the music software discs I want to burn to DVD-R are greater than 4.5 GB in size, so an iso won't fit on just one disc. Could I use ImgBurn to make an iso, then use 7-Zip to split it into 4.5 GB parts? | My System Specs | | |
08 Aug 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
A much better updated program since ImgBurn was written for the 32bit XP and won't even run on the 64bit anything is the free Passcape ISO Burner program. That will burn any iso image to disk with ease on any version of Windows XP and newer on both the 32bit and 64bit.
The Passcape program also has an option for writing a Windows 7 iso to a usb flash drive to see a 7 USB Install Key made up. The guide for that option can also be an alternative while the best would be keeping any optical media safe in a fire proof vault. USB Windows 7 Installation Key Drive - Create
Programs like PowerISO or the All Free ISO Creator 3.0.5 will handle iso images made from dvds while ImgBurn is for smaller cd images with a size limit. The shareware version of another program can also burn as well as create images to disk and make up bootable flash drives as well. UltraISO - Download | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
08 Aug 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk A much better updated program since ImgBurn was written for the 32bit XP and won't even run on the 64bit anything Sorry but not true. ImgBurn works fine on Windows 7x64 and is the application I would most recommend. ImgBurn is a 32 bit application but then so are many (most?) that run on the 64 bit Windows 7 OS. They are stored in Program Files (x86).
@ratsrcute
You probably need to burn to a dual layer DVD. I use these for third party installation disk. I have backed up Sibelius this way. Again, this is definitely not any sort of pirating of the software. It is merely copying the installation disk. Without your personal installation key it is useless. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
08 Aug 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |

Quote: Originally Posted by mjf 
Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk A much better updated program since ImgBurn was written for the 32bit XP and won't even run on the 64bit anything Sorry but not true. ImgBurn works fine on Windows 7x64 and is the application I would most recommend. ImgBurn is a 32 bit application but then so are most that run on the 64 bit Windows 7 OS. They are stored in Program Files (x86).
@ratsrcute
You probably need to burn to a dual layer DVD. I use these for third party installation disk. I have backed up Sibelius this way. Again, this is definitely not any sort of pirating of the software. It is merely copying the installation disk. Without your personal installation key it is useless. The last latest version of ImgBurn tried here simply wouldn't run on the 64bit Windows. For what ratsrcute would find far better for his needs is what I did here which was but the full versions for both PowerISO and UltraISO as well as free download seen with the Passcape ISO Burner program.
The shareware version of PowerISO won't handle anything over 300mb simply being the trial version to try out while full version would support editing as well as multiple disk formats. Large iso images are the norm for that one.
As for seeing Windows go on clean I've been seeing enough of that lately where a USB Install Key seems to go along faster then relying on optical media and you can a case of flash drives around with you! | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
08 Aug 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |
There are different programs to do similar things so you need to make your own choice.
But re: ImgBurn The Official ImgBurn Website
"ImgBurn supports all the Microsoft Windows OS's - Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows Me, Windows NT4, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows 2003, Windows Vista, Windows 2008, Windows 7 and Windows 8 ( including all the 64-bit versions). If you use Wine, it should also run on Linux and other x86-based Unixes." | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
08 Aug 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
I would rather see ratsrcute make his own comparisons and go from there. For PowerISO the features would be seen at PowerISO Features
The PowerISO program isn't just for dropping images on disks either but a good one for data dvds if you prefer backups by optical. With imaging programs like Acronis however you can back up entire drives to a network location even and solve the need for burning any disks if you had that option available or simply to an external hard drive.
A fire proof safe in a basement location however would go further in protecting any and all optical media as well as anyting else non replacable in case of any fire since the safe would usually be away from the heat source as well as protect your documents. As for Windows MS allows for the iso creation, usb flash drive installs mainly started when netbooks arrived for installation purposes rather then the term "casual copying". The rest falls into a grey area. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
08 Aug 2012
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#9 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk I would rather see ratsrcute make his own comparisons and go from there. For PowerISO the features would be seen at PowerISO Features Agreed | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
08 Aug 2012
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
The last look by the way at the ImgBurn program was about a year ago where it still wouldn't run on the 64bit side. I see that was finally addressed with the March 2012 release there. Back in 2009 however it wouldn't work for 7 isos still being limited to size as far as cds not dvd isos where PowerISO took up the gap.
The free Passcape ISO Burner program however has been found to burn reliably without reducing the burn speed down. I've been using that to see the 8 isos burned to disk while still using the full retail version of the other to create images. For a freebie it's light weight and works fast. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
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