| Windows 7: Imaging, cloning...need advice |
08 Sep 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 bit |
Imaging, cloning...need advice Hi again,
I'm confusing with this terminology (imaging, cloning,..). Anyway I need a big advice, please!
I got my first BSOD in my 6 month Toshiba laptop (Tecra R840-16J) that I could not recover from (I'm sure the experts could but I don't  ). I tried safe mode, go to a previous good state,..nothing worked! I hade sveral dozens of GB of applications installed (and all those settings too) that are gone! Of course I have all the SW in an external USB3.0 HDD and I will reinstall everything...!!!
Please, give me a strategie they I will follow (not for avoyding BSOD) but in the case this happens again I could, in a simple maner, have my laptop functional again with all the software and settings I had before the crash!
I have Ghost 15.0 but I unistalled all my Norton sw and I want to keep far from that!
I tried the built in Windows 7 restore with no sucess since at the end an error occured saying that the image was not created sucessefully!
Please let me know what steps should I follow to:
- create an image (clone ?) of my entire machine
- restore my machine to the exact state before the crash
Thanks a lot,
paulo | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Tecra R840 OS Windows 7 Professional 64 bit CPU I7 2640M Memory 8 GB Graphics Card AMD Radeo HD 6450M Monitor(s) Displays HD+ 14 inch Hard Drives HDD 500GB 7200 rpm |
08 Sep 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 Rockville, Maryland USA |
Paulo,
1. Cloning is copying the whole disk to another disk. If don't properly, it should be a complete mirror image of the source disk and bootable, just like the original disk.
2. Imageing is creating a single file in some program that is everything on your source drive in one file and requires a program to restore the image to another drive.
Norton ghost is an imaging/clone commercial program similar to Acronis. There is a couple of free ones that are available.
Rich | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Laptop Qosimo X870 OS Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core I7 Motherboard Toshiba Memory 16 Gigs Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M Monitor(s) Displays 17.7" laptop Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Hard Drives 256 Gig SanDisk SSD for C
256 Gig Intel SSD for D Internet Speed 50/25 FIOS Antivirus Vipre (all you can eat for 10 machines) Browser IE and FF Other Info I have dos 6.22, wfwg 3.11, win98, 2000 and xp VHD's available for testing. MS's Virtual PC works great. |
08 Sep 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 bit |
Thanks again!
You know what...afterall the Windows 7 works great for imaging and restoring if I use a partition in my main HDD! If I try to use an external Iomega USB3.0 Prestige HDD it will not end properly!
I just made an image of my system via the Windows 7 built in image and restore, then removed some sw and then restore it via the same built in application! all went smooth and my system is as it was before! Shame it not work with my external drive!
paulo
Thanks, | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Tecra R840 OS Windows 7 Professional 64 bit CPU I7 2640M Memory 8 GB Graphics Card AMD Radeo HD 6450M Monitor(s) Displays HD+ 14 inch Hard Drives HDD 500GB 7200 rpm |
08 Sep 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 Rockville, Maryland USA |
Paulobao, There has to be something wrong someplace for your windows 7 internal image to not write the image to an external drive. If the drive is not formatted NTFS, that would do it as well as not enough space.
I have successfully used the windows 7 imaging software to an external USB hard disk and restored it to a replacement hard disk. Must be of the same size or larger though.
I mostly use and trust Acronis home imaging sofware and it just works the way I want it to.
One problem that I have seen is that people buy the small backup devices and run the software that is included which will prevent the Imaging software from working. I normally just buy the SATA external cases and pick up small large hard drives to put in them. I format from the windows 7 options and have been successful all of the time.
Rich | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Laptop Qosimo X870 OS Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core I7 Motherboard Toshiba Memory 16 Gigs Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M Monitor(s) Displays 17.7" laptop Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Hard Drives 256 Gig SanDisk SSD for C
256 Gig Intel SSD for D Internet Speed 50/25 FIOS Antivirus Vipre (all you can eat for 10 machines) Browser IE and FF Other Info I have dos 6.22, wfwg 3.11, win98, 2000 and xp VHD's available for testing. MS's Virtual PC works great. |
08 Sep 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 bit |
Maybe! I use an Iomega Prestige USB 3.0 external drive! No sucess until now!
paulo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Tecra R840 OS Windows 7 Professional 64 bit CPU I7 2640M Memory 8 GB Graphics Card AMD Radeo HD 6450M Monitor(s) Displays HD+ 14 inch Hard Drives HDD 500GB 7200 rpm |
08 Sep 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 Rockville, Maryland USA |

Quote: Originally Posted by paulobao Maybe! I use an Iomega Prestige USB 3.0 external drive! No sucess until now!
paulo Paulo, something tells me that you installed the Iomega backup software????
Rich | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Laptop Qosimo X870 OS Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core I7 Motherboard Toshiba Memory 16 Gigs Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M Monitor(s) Displays 17.7" laptop Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Hard Drives 256 Gig SanDisk SSD for C
256 Gig Intel SSD for D Internet Speed 50/25 FIOS Antivirus Vipre (all you can eat for 10 machines) Browser IE and FF Other Info I have dos 6.22, wfwg 3.11, win98, 2000 and xp VHD's available for testing. MS's Virtual PC works great. |
08 Sep 2012
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#7 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Have a look at this. It will do what you want. I recommend to image at least once per week (or more). Imaging with free Macrium | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
08 Sep 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 bit |
No Rich, I've not installed Iomega backup!
Thanks for the Macrium link :-). Do you think Paragon suite will be fine too?
Now I can image right away via Windows 7 to the new parition but nor for my external disk!
paulo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Tecra R840 OS Windows 7 Professional 64 bit CPU I7 2640M Memory 8 GB Graphics Card AMD Radeo HD 6450M Monitor(s) Displays HD+ 14 inch Hard Drives HDD 500GB 7200 rpm |
08 Sep 2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
Paolo:
Cloning is not a backup strategy. It's normally used when things are going well and you just want to move to a new hard drive.
Imaging is a backup strategy and is normally used when things are NOT going well and you need to recover to an earlier state.
It sounds like imaging is what you need.
Macrium and Acronis are the most commonly used imaging programs. Macrium can also clone. I'm not sure about Acronis. Either of those is easier to understand and use than the built-in Windows program (which doesn't clone as far as I know). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
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Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
08 Sep 2012
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#10 | | |
Macrium and Paragon both do good free versions.
The drawback with Macrium free is that it doesn't support gpt style drives.
Acronis is a popular program - but they don't really do a free version (there is a sort of limited free version available - but only if you have at least one Seagate, or WD drive ) | My System Specs | | OS Vista x64 / 7 X64 CPU E8400 Motherboard ASRock 1333 GLAN R2.0 Memory 2x1 gb 800mhz Graphics Card 9500gt 1gb Case Coolermaster Cooling Winpower 500w Hard Drives Maxtor 160gb-2mb cache Imaging, cloning...need advice problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:30 AM. | |