| Windows 7: Best way to make mirror images of your HDD you can continue backups on |
08 Oct 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 professional 64 bit Lancaster PA |
Best way to make mirror images of your HDD you can continue backups on Good morning all. I have a brand new HP desktop with Windows 7. The HD is very noisy and i want to make a mirror image of my HDD that as time goes along i can continue backing up as i add pictures, favorites etc. I would hate to have to make backup DVD's every week or so. My questions are:
1) Do i HAVE to have aftermarket (paid) software to do this?
2) Can i just use a suitable sized external HD, utilizing the built in backup program built into my PC's Windows 7 OS?
I would rather pay for an external HDD rather than for software i may need support from to get back up and running. If my HDD fails, as soon as i install the new HDD i want to be able to very quickly upload the mirror image to the new drive and be off.
Comments, thoughts, opinions wanted! | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number HP 505B B2C02UT Business Desktop OS Windows 7 professional 64 bit CPU AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 220 Processor Motherboard PEGATRON (2A99) Memory 3GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 Sound Card Realtek ALC662 High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays OEM Dell CRT Screen Resolution poor Keyboard wired Logitech K120 Mouse wired M100 mice PSU OEM HP 300 watt Case OEM Cooling OEM Hard Drives (1) NCQ Smart IV 500GB Hard Drive - 7,200RPM - SATA 3.0Gb/s Internet Speed G5 High Speed Internet |
08 Oct 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) South Australia |
Hi,
You definately do not require paid software, so spend any money on a good external HDD.
For user data, you could try this: Download: SyncToy 2.1 - Microsoft Download Center - Download Details
For full system images, I recommend this: Imaging with free Macrium
Regards,
Golden | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
3*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID5;
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! Antivirus MSE and Malwarebytes Pro Browser Chrome Version 27 Other Info Laptop: ASUS X54C, Intel Core i3-2330M @ 2.0Ghz, 4GB RAM, Intel HD on-board graphics, Windows 7 Professional SP1 (x64), LinuxMint 14 (x64), PepperMint 3 (x86) |
08 Oct 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 professional 64 bit Lancaster PA |
Cool, i figured the external HDD was the way to go. I still would prefer to use the OEM Microsoft program though. It seems easy to use, with not a lot of variables an inexperienced user would get confused with. Plus, I could get all the killer support i needed right here on this forum! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP 505B B2C02UT Business Desktop OS Windows 7 professional 64 bit CPU AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 220 Processor Motherboard PEGATRON (2A99) Memory 3GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 Sound Card Realtek ALC662 High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays OEM Dell CRT Screen Resolution poor Keyboard wired Logitech K120 Mouse wired M100 mice PSU OEM HP 300 watt Case OEM Cooling OEM Hard Drives (1) NCQ Smart IV 500GB Hard Drive - 7,200RPM - SATA 3.0Gb/s Internet Speed G5 High Speed Internet |
08 Oct 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) South Australia |
If you find that easier, go for it  The quality of the support is the same, regardless of software | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
3*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID5;
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! Antivirus MSE and Malwarebytes Pro Browser Chrome Version 27 Other Info Laptop: ASUS X54C, Intel Core i3-2330M @ 2.0Ghz, 4GB RAM, Intel HD on-board graphics, Windows 7 Professional SP1 (x64), LinuxMint 14 (x64), PepperMint 3 (x86) |
08 Oct 2012
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#5 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
The Windows7 built in imaging facility is full of surprises. It is my observation that half of the people that used it could not recover when needed. Some people got stuck so badly, that I was compelled to write a tutorial on how they could recover from that bad scenario with the use of free Macrium.
I therefore really advise that you go with the recommendations that Golden has given you - it is much safer and more reliable. In addition, I would create a seperate data partition for your use data. That would make backups easier and faster and the backup frequency on the system and the user data is usually different.
Just make sure that you check in disk management that you have a maximum of 3 primary partitions on your system. If, by chance, you have 4 primary partitions (which is quite frequent on new systems), you cannot create an additional partition before making some accomodations. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
08 Oct 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 professional 64 bit Lancaster PA |
OK whs, that's great information!! If the OE program is that touchy, i will use the Macrium. And what is the purpose of the separate data partition? And what do you mean by "data"? I posted a pic with my partitions too. Thanks guys for all the help, i'm almost there! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP 505B B2C02UT Business Desktop OS Windows 7 professional 64 bit CPU AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 220 Processor Motherboard PEGATRON (2A99) Memory 3GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 Sound Card Realtek ALC662 High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays OEM Dell CRT Screen Resolution poor Keyboard wired Logitech K120 Mouse wired M100 mice PSU OEM HP 300 watt Case OEM Cooling OEM Hard Drives (1) NCQ Smart IV 500GB Hard Drive - 7,200RPM - SATA 3.0Gb/s Internet Speed G5 High Speed Internet |
08 Oct 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) South Australia |
Hi,
Having a separate partition for data (photos, music, documents etc. etc. anything that is not explicitly system information) allows you to have a small C drive (system partition), which means imaging is very fast. For example, my images take about 12 minutes, start to end. Having large partitions takes far longer, with large resultant image files.
Regards,
Golden | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
3*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID5;
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! Antivirus MSE and Malwarebytes Pro Browser Chrome Version 27 Other Info Laptop: ASUS X54C, Intel Core i3-2330M @ 2.0Ghz, 4GB RAM, Intel HD on-board graphics, Windows 7 Professional SP1 (x64), LinuxMint 14 (x64), PepperMint 3 (x86) |
08 Oct 2012
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#8 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
1. You could go ahead and create a data partition - you have only 3 primary partitions. Shrink a good chunk from the C partition for that and move the user data folders as explained in the tutorial.
2. As Golden explained, 2 partitions are more efficient. Another advantage is that you do not lose your data should you ever lose your system partition, you do not use your data. The system is always easy to replace (even if you have no images). But your data may be gone for good.
Another advantage is that you can backup system and data independently and depending on need. The updates of the system and the data usually do not occur at the same time. I image the data partition too, but for the data you can also use a sync program which would be faster. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
08 Oct 2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 professional 64 bit Lancaster PA |
So if i have this right, if i make a data partition, i will have 4 different partitions that will all back up, (but at different times) to create the "mirror image"? And, assuming the worst case scenario, (which is what i am planning for) after the new HDD is installed i can reload all four partitions, and my PC would be as if nothing was ever wrong, correct? Oh, and can i save that video to my HDD? It is very stuttery and hard to watch. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP 505B B2C02UT Business Desktop OS Windows 7 professional 64 bit CPU AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 220 Processor Motherboard PEGATRON (2A99) Memory 3GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 Sound Card Realtek ALC662 High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays OEM Dell CRT Screen Resolution poor Keyboard wired Logitech K120 Mouse wired M100 mice PSU OEM HP 300 watt Case OEM Cooling OEM Hard Drives (1) NCQ Smart IV 500GB Hard Drive - 7,200RPM - SATA 3.0Gb/s Internet Speed G5 High Speed Internet |
08 Oct 2012
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#10 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
The system partition (the small 100MB partition), you image only once because it never changes. Keep it in a seperate folder.
The recovery partition you can also backup once but because you will have the system images, you will probably never need it.
On a regular basis you backup the C partition with the OS and your data.
On your backup drive, create a seperate folder for each partition so that you know which is which. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 Best way to make mirror images of your HDD you can continue backups on problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:25 AM. | |