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Windows 7: cloning vs imaging?

26 Nov 2012   #11
eburnettscd

Window 7 ult x64
 
 

Clone = having a brick of the same shape and color
Image = having a picture of the brick of shape and color

Clone you can directly replace whereas image you need the imaging restore tool to recreate the drive


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26 Nov 2012   #12
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Clone - you need a dedicated disk that is 'like' the original to be able to swap. And you need the complete partition space.

Image - you can put on any internal or external disk (even DVD - although not recommended) and you can make many images. They are compressed to about 60% of the original data size - not partition size.
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27 Nov 2012   #13
mfx

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

My prediciment may help as I need a clone not a system image and I also need some advice:

What is the best method to clone a data drive on my computer which has music,media and photos onto an external drive to playback on a media player (Med8er1000) on my TV please?

Should I use Windows backup and select the exact folders from the original drive to clone to the external drive, purchase software ie; acronis backup or another option.

I couold just copy and past but we are talking 1tb plus and I understand this option may not meet the desired results or is that incorrect?

Many thanks and not trying to hijack OP so apologies as this thread landed on my search result and felt relevant.
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27 Nov 2012   #14
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by eburnettscd View Post
Depends what you care about, and what backup solution you use. I've had headaches over Acronis, Ghost, and Paragon from corrupted image, disk error, new hardware, bad media, etc where nothing beats a good old cloned disk.
I disagree.

You must have something strange going with your imaging process. I have restored a very large number of images using Windows inbuilt and Macrium Reflect to existing and brand new HDDs. I have never had a single problem and this has been on 3 totally different PCs.
I don't have direct experience with the 3 imaging programs you refer to but I would be surprised if Acronis gave problems.
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27 Nov 2012   #15
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mfx View Post
Should I use Windows backup and select the exact folders from the original drive to clone to the external drive, purchase software ie; acronis backup or another option.
This is not cloning. If you are talking data only then have a look at this and see if it helps:
ROBOCOPY - Create Backup Script
It describes the Robocopy command well.
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27 Nov 2012   #16
eburnettscd

Window 7 ult x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by eburnettscd View Post
Depends what you care about, and what backup solution you use. I've had headaches over Acronis, Ghost, and Paragon from corrupted image, disk error, new hardware, bad media, etc where nothing beats a good old cloned disk.
I disagree.

You must have something strange going with your imaging process. I have restored a very large number of images using Windows inbuilt and Macrium Reflect to existing and brand new HDDs. I have never had a single problem and this has been on 3 totally different PCs.
I don't have direct experience with the 3 imaging programs you refer to but I would be surprised if Acronis gave problems.
Feel free to disagree, no software is without its bugs.

Acronis: what's great is the software is getting cheaper, what's not cool is as you phase XP/200x Server backups your old software will no longer support and you require upgrades. TI 2013 may have cured that false GPT/DD error last week on TI home 11, and Acronis B&R might back up that Win 2012 Server that Echo can't - but the upgrades aren't free. A very disagreeable surprise for anyone making the 7x64-8/2012 leap without Acronis upgrades first.

While not the biggest Acronis fan, it had its positives and was a useful application during its useful life. Not curious enough to try the new software any time soon. Many competitive alternatives these days, especially if your needs are simple.
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28 Nov 2012   #17
mfx

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mfx View Post
Should I use Windows backup and select the exact folders from the original drive to clone to the external drive, purchase software ie; acronis backup or another option.
This is not cloning. If you are talking data only then have a look at this and see if it helps:
ROBOCOPY - Create Backup Script
It describes the Robocopy command well.
Thank you checking this out now.
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28 Nov 2012   #18
kado897

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
 
 

It may also be worth checking out FreeFileSync. The link is in my sig and I did a tut here. Backup With FreeFileSync - YouTube
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28 Nov 2012   #19
mfx

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Looks good and safer...thank you :•) and free bonus.. respect paid and deserved :•)

ps The music on the tut vid is very relaxing, nice.
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28 Nov 2012   #20
kado897

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
 
 

Thanks. Truth to tell I chose the music because it was the right length and doesn't clash with the video, but it is relaxing.

That was several releases ago and it has changed slightly since especially the versions part, but the principle is the same.
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