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Windows 7: Windows-7 Image vs. Acronis Image?

14 Dec 2012   #1

Vista Ultimate 64 and Windows-7 both are 64 Bit
 
 
Windows-7 Image vs. Acronis Image?

With either of these two Products, if I create an Image will the Image "include" everything on the Partition?

What I'm asking is, in the event I "delete" something from a Partition, and presuming the "deleted" item is not overwritten, will the "deleted" item be part of an Image created AND restorable by Windows or Acronis?

Best regards,

Mike Lynch


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14 Dec 2012   #2

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Imaging will back up everything on the partition/Disk at the time the image is made. Normally an image is restored completely, overwriting everything that is currently there, so yes your file will be restored but any changes you have made since the image was made anywhere else will be lost. I don't know about Acronis but it is possible to extract individual files from a Windows image. See this tutorial. System Image - Extract Files Using Disk Management

You would be better doing a file and folder backup if you just want to recover individual files. Windows has it's own version or you can use a third party one such as FreeFileSync or Microsoft's own SyncToy.
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14 Dec 2012   #3
whs
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There is also the possibility to restore lost files or folders from a restore point. If you have a seperate data partition, I highly recommend to enable restore points there too.

ShadowExplorer - Recover Lost Files and Folders
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14 Dec 2012   #4

Vista Ultimate 64 and Windows-7 both are 64 Bit
 
 

Perhaps I need to restate my objective as your answers might not fix what I want to do.

Let's assume I have a Hard Drive, Memory Stick, whatever that I have been using for a year.
I have written Files to it over the course of time.
I have Defragged it occasionally.
If I search the Media for "deleted files", some are found and are recoverable.

I'm at this point now.

I would like to use Microsoft Image or Acronis Image to make an EXACT COPY of the Media in question - to include the "deleted files" to DVD Media. This way I would have a +-100% secure version of the "deleted files", just in case.

Then I would "recover" whatever I could to a separate Memory Stick.

Then I would "low level format" the Media in question and Restore what Files I choose to.

Yes, I am insecure and do not want to loose what I have found.

I wear a Belt and Suspender just in case!

I suppose I could buy another Disk Drive and figure a way to add it to my System but I thought a System Image might do what I want so I asked the Forum.

Please continue to respond to this question / my dilema as I'm tempted buy really afraid to loose what I found.

Best regards,

Mike Lynch
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14 Dec 2012   #5

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System images will not usually image deleted files as it treats it as free space to cut down on space used by the image. I don't think you can change that with windows built in imaging. Macrium Reflect has an option to do a sector by sector (forensic copy) which images everything but I can't remember whether that is in the free version. There may be other products which have a similar facility.
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14 Dec 2012   #6

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

the big difference between Acronis and Windows backup are the features they offer. The paid version of Acronis will offer many more features, and flexibility.

However, if I am understanding you correctly niether will acomplish what you want to do.

By that I mean:
Both Image the Hard Drive, or the Partition as it is at that moment in time. To be fair, I am not very familiar with Windows built in backup so I will use Aconis in my examples.

By restoring a full disk Image, Acronis wipes the drive and recreates its partitions and data just as it was the moment it was image.
The same holds true for a partition image, only it wipes and restores just the partition in question.

It will also allow you to brows the imaged contents and restore just a folder, several folder, a single file, or multiple files.


The only was you can recover DELETED files with Acronis, is by restoring said file from a earlier image.
For example, lets say I delete a MP3 and empty the recycle bin. By schedule, Acronis Images my HD.
That file will NOT be included in the image. It was deleted. But, a image from the day before WOULD have that file. I can then access that image, and restore just that 1 file.

The only way to recover deleted files is with software designed for that purpose. Imaging for the purpose of recovering deleted contents will not work reliably, as Acronis backs ups your data.
The deleted DATA itself is remnants left on the HD itself. Data recovery software may see it and often recover it. The more you write to the HD however, the less chance of recovery.
Acronis does not save this DATA, nor does it restore it.
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14 Dec 2012   #7
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

I think you are complicating the matter. I would just immediately store the files in two places (active and backup) and only work with the 'active' version. In case you lose anything from your active version, it will still be in 'backup'.
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17 Dec 2012   #8

Vista Ultimate 64 and Windows-7 both are 64 Bit
 
 

I'm still in the hunt for an answer and I am in the process of trying a test.

I now have a spare USB/500GB/2.5" Hard Drive.

I also have an older purchased Version of Acronis.

While I would prefer to only use a MS Windows-7 Pro OEM supplied solutions, a prior reply indicated that MS does not transfer deleted or unused space to allow the Image to run faster and be smaller.

The Acronis Version I have allows for creating the Image Sector by Sector so I'm giving it a try.

Again, I want / need the ability to Backup up if you will, Deleted Files that are still in tact.

I have created my first Image using the Acronis Sector by Sector Option and I will compare the results later today.
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