| Windows 7: Windows-7 Image vs. Acronis Image? |
14 Dec 2012
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#1 | | Vista Ultimate 64 and Windows-7 both are 64 Bit Clearwater Florida |
Windows-7 Image vs. Acronis Image? With either of these two Products, if I create an Image will the Image "include" everything on the Partition?
What I'm asking is, in the event I "delete" something from a Partition, and presuming the "deleted" item is not overwritten, will the "deleted" item be part of an Image created AND restorable by Windows or Acronis?
Best regards,
Mike Lynch | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Two Gateway Profile 6.5's OS Vista Ultimate 64 and Windows-7 both are 64 Bit CPU 2.33 Gigahertz Intel Core2 Duo Motherboard Intel Wistron Profile 6.5 vPro PROFILE65 Memory 4-Gig |
14 Dec 2012
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#2 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 Hertfordshire |
Imaging will back up everything on the partition/Disk at the time the image is made. Normally an image is restored completely, overwriting everything that is currently there, so yes your file will be restored but any changes you have made since the image was made anywhere else will be lost. I don't know about Acronis but it is possible to extract individual files from a Windows image. See this tutorial. System Image - Extract Files Using Disk Management
You would be better doing a file and folder backup if you just want to recover individual files. Windows has it's own version or you can use a third party one such as FreeFileSync or Microsoft's own SyncToy. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Hewlett-Packard/G62-107SA Notebook OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz Motherboard Hewlett-Packard 1425 Memory 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel(R) HD Graphics Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Builtin Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz Mouse Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 Hard Drives 250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
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14 Dec 2012
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#3 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
There is also the possibility to restore lost files or folders from a restore point. If you have a seperate data partition, I highly recommend to enable restore points there too. ShadowExplorer - Recover Lost Files and Folders | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
14 Dec 2012
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#4 | | Vista Ultimate 64 and Windows-7 both are 64 Bit Clearwater Florida |
Perhaps I need to restate my objective as your answers might not fix what I want to do.
Let's assume I have a Hard Drive, Memory Stick, whatever that I have been using for a year.
I have written Files to it over the course of time.
I have Defragged it occasionally.
If I search the Media for "deleted files", some are found and are recoverable.
I'm at this point now.
I would like to use Microsoft Image or Acronis Image to make an EXACT COPY of the Media in question - to include the "deleted files" to DVD Media. This way I would have a +-100% secure version of the "deleted files", just in case.
Then I would "recover" whatever I could to a separate Memory Stick.
Then I would "low level format" the Media in question and Restore what Files I choose to.
Yes, I am insecure and do not want to loose what I have found.
I wear a Belt and Suspender just in case!
I suppose I could buy another Disk Drive and figure a way to add it to my System but I thought a System Image might do what I want so I asked the Forum.
Please continue to respond to this question / my dilema as I'm tempted buy really afraid to loose what I found.
Best regards,
Mike Lynch | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Two Gateway Profile 6.5's OS Vista Ultimate 64 and Windows-7 both are 64 Bit CPU 2.33 Gigahertz Intel Core2 Duo Motherboard Intel Wistron Profile 6.5 vPro PROFILE65 Memory 4-Gig |
14 Dec 2012
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#5 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 Hertfordshire |
System images will not usually image deleted files as it treats it as free space to cut down on space used by the image. I don't think you can change that with windows built in imaging. Macrium Reflect has an option to do a sector by sector (forensic copy) which images everything but I can't remember whether that is in the free version. There may be other products which have a similar facility. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Hewlett-Packard/G62-107SA Notebook OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz Motherboard Hewlett-Packard 1425 Memory 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel(R) HD Graphics Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Builtin Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz Mouse Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 Hard Drives 250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
2TB Seagate GoFlex USB 2 Drive
1TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive
1.5TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive (Samsung)
1TB Iomega NAS. Internet Speed 60 Mbs download 3 Mbs upload Antivirus Norton 360 Browser Chrome |
14 Dec 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit Southern Ohio |
the big difference between Acronis and Windows backup are the features they offer. The paid version of Acronis will offer many more features, and flexibility.
However, if I am understanding you correctly niether will acomplish what you want to do.
By that I mean:
Both Image the Hard Drive, or the Partition as it is at that moment in time. To be fair, I am not very familiar with Windows built in backup so I will use Aconis in my examples.
By restoring a full disk Image, Acronis wipes the drive and recreates its partitions and data just as it was the moment it was image.
The same holds true for a partition image, only it wipes and restores just the partition in question.
It will also allow you to brows the imaged contents and restore just a folder, several folder, a single file, or multiple files.
The only was you can recover DELETED files with Acronis, is by restoring said file from a earlier image.
For example, lets say I delete a MP3 and empty the recycle bin. By schedule, Acronis Images my HD.
That file will NOT be included in the image. It was deleted. But, a image from the day before WOULD have that file. I can then access that image, and restore just that 1 file.
The only way to recover deleted files is with software designed for that purpose. Imaging for the purpose of recovering deleted contents will not work reliably, as Acronis backs ups your data.
The deleted DATA itself is remnants left on the HD itself. Data recovery software may see it and often recover it. The more you write to the HD however, the less chance of recovery.
Acronis does not save this DATA, nor does it restore it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866 Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SC Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T SE White Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB Antivirus Kaspersky Browser IE Other Info LG BD/DVD |
14 Dec 2012
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#7 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
I think you are complicating the matter. I would just immediately store the files in two places (active and backup) and only work with the 'active' version. In case you lose anything from your active version, it will still be in 'backup'. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
17 Dec 2012
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#8 | | Vista Ultimate 64 and Windows-7 both are 64 Bit Clearwater Florida |
I'm still in the hunt for an answer and I am in the process of trying a test.
I now have a spare USB/500GB/2.5" Hard Drive.
I also have an older purchased Version of Acronis.
While I would prefer to only use a MS Windows-7 Pro OEM supplied solutions, a prior reply indicated that MS does not transfer deleted or unused space to allow the Image to run faster and be smaller.
The Acronis Version I have allows for creating the Image Sector by Sector so I'm giving it a try.
Again, I want / need the ability to Backup up if you will, Deleted Files that are still in tact.
I have created my first Image using the Acronis Sector by Sector Option and I will compare the results later today. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Two Gateway Profile 6.5's OS Vista Ultimate 64 and Windows-7 both are 64 Bit CPU 2.33 Gigahertz Intel Core2 Duo Motherboard Intel Wistron Profile 6.5 vPro PROFILE65 Memory 4-Gig Windows-7 Image vs. Acronis Image? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:00 AM. | |