| Windows 7: Best free cloning software to protect against disaster |
03 Feb 2013
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#1 | | Windows 7 home premium 64 bit |
Best free cloning software to protect against disaster I have owned Acronis for years but with every update it gets less reliable.
I just installed Macrium free edition and went to clone my primary drive (C, OS,) and it warned that the target drive would lose all data on it. Is that really necessary? Wipe the drive before copying over to it.
I dont mean to trash Macrium it seems like a great piece of free software but erasing all the data from my target drive wont work for me.
I need a program that will produce an exact copy that I can access if disaster should strike, I dont need incremental or differential backups, I dont need individual folder backups, I dont need anything but a dependable program that will clone my complete drive. I like that Acronis will do this with an existing drive without disturbing the data on the drive and I also like that I dont need rescue media with it, on startup I just press an F key and it automatically boots into the program. Its just become unreliable.
Is there a better alternative?
I'd even pay for this peace of mind.
Last edited by rocks911; 03 Feb 2013 at 01:28 PM..
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03 Feb 2013
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#2 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit South Central Texas |
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03 Feb 2013
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#3 | | Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center 64bit Covington, La |

Quote: Originally Posted by rocks911 I have owned Acronis for years but with every update it gets less reliable.
I just installed Macrium free edition and went to clone my primary drive (C, OS,) and it warned that the target drive would lose all data on it. Is that really necessary? Wipe the drive before copying over to it.
I dont mean to trash Macrium it seems like a great piece of free software but erasing all the data from my target drive wont work for me. That is what "cloning" does. In Macrium you want to "image" your drive and save the image to be used later to restore your system. You can do the whole drive or individual partitions.
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04 Feb 2013
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#5 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by rocks911 Is there a better alternative?
I'd even pay for this peace of mind. It's hard to beat your initial choice of free Macrium Reflect. You can also use Windows inbuilt imaging as an additional safeguard if you wish.
You may be giving "cloning" too much credit.
If you restored your image to say a brand new HDD of the same or greater size you would end up with a fully functional system (OS, programs, data etc) just like if you cloned.
Cloning is just a bit by bit/ sector by sector copy. Cloning would copy everything which you don't really need like pagefile contents etc. Cloning requires the physical disc to copy to now and that is why Macrium gave the message it did.
Using imaging you need no preparation for even a new HDD if your current one dies, just physically connect it (by itself) and run the image restore process. If your current HDD just screws up then do an image restore back to it.
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04 Feb 2013
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04 Feb 2013
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit Southern Ohio |

Quote: Originally Posted by rocks911 I have owned Acronis for years but with every update it gets less reliable. Agreed. Do you happen to have 2010 still? If so, go back to it. Its rock solid and reliable.
If you want to get away from Acronis all together then as mentioned, Macrium is a fine product.
Ive also used the free version of Paragon and it worked well too.
being used to ATI, both of these will seem to have limited functionality compared to ATI, but they are free and have all the basics that most will need.
And they do offer paid versions with more features as well should you decide you need/want them.
Id either stick with ATI 2010, or go to Macrium. Ive had lots of issues with newer Acronis products myself sadly | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866 Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SC Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T SE White Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB Antivirus Kaspersky Browser IE Other Info LG BD/DVD |
04 Feb 2013
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#8 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 SecretCity |

Quote: Originally Posted by rocks911 I have owned Acronis for years but with every update it gets less reliable.
I just installed Macrium free edition and went to clone my primary drive (C, OS,) and it warned that the target drive would lose all data on it. Is that really necessary? Wipe the drive before copying over to it.
I dont mean to trash Macrium it seems like a great piece of free software but erasing all the data from my target drive wont work for me.
I need a program that will produce an exact copy that I can access if disaster should strike, I dont need incremental or differential backups, I dont need individual folder backups, I dont need anything but a dependable program that will clone my complete drive. I like that Acronis will do this with an existing drive without disturbing the data on the drive and I also like that I dont need rescue media with it, on startup I just press an F key and it automatically boots into the program. Its just become unreliable.
Is there a better alternative?
I'd even pay for this peace of mind. Use macrium reflect free option image.
Or use macrium reflect option clone. Wiping destination disk isn't neccesary at all!! just create enough free space by shrinking partitions already on destination disk.
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04 Feb 2013
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#9 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |
As I said before I'd steer away from cloning unless you want to make a new HDD now. Imaging isn't just "a backup". It is a special form of backup which allows you to fully recover your system to the existing HDD or a new one. This is a more efficient and flexible approach to save you from disaster. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
04 Feb 2013
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you don't want to CLONE your hard drive...you want to take an IMAGE of your hard drive.
Cloning means 1 hard drive directly to another hard drive.
Image means backup 1 hard drive to an image file stored on another hard drive.
You typically clone when say you move from an 80GB SSD to a 240GB SSD. By cloning it's a 1 pass process. You "Can" accomplish the same task by imaging, it's just 2 steps (1st step is take the image, 2nd step is restore the image).
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