| Windows 7: Acronis True Image Home 2011 - DON'T BUY IT |
18 Mar 2013
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Actually, there was a reason I'm not using Acronis 2013 here. I actually purchased 2013 for another office and I didn't much care for some of the changes they made.
Did someone post "6 month old OS"??? Win 7's been around since 2010!
Anyway, to my horror I found the RAID array irrevocably corrupted. At least for my level of IT chops it was.
One thing I maybe should have tried with the Win 7 OEM CD was INSTALL>UPGRADE, instead of only trying the OS repair feature. Maybe I could have fixed the MBR without blowing out the files but I'll never know. Still doesn't change the fact that Disk 0 was showing up as NON-RAID. Don't think the CD could have fixed that. First I got "NTLDR missing", and then later I got both disks to show up as RAID 0 again, but then it was a "disk read failure" error. Don't like that one.
So I made a new array. Made it a mirror this time.
So I re-installed Win 7 from the CD, on a formatted 80G partition, and then after up and running, I recovered from my Acronis .tib disk image WITHOUT checking the "Recover MBR/ track 0" box.
After restoring the original system partition from Acronis .tib file, I got "server execution failed explorer.exe" trying to open any window or menu item in the primary user's login. USERS>DOCUMENTS, etc., all that stuff had been on the DATA logical partition, still not restored. Control panel would not open.
I logged on as a different user with Admin rights (glad I made a backdoor in), then created a second partition in Disk Mgmt. Recovered the second .tib (data) disk image to that.
Still got "server execution failed explorer.exe" logging in as her because the drive letter had changed after backup. Once I changed the partition drive letter, it's finally over. The PC's back.
FYI the way I usually leverage Acronis is CLONE, along with letting nonstop backup run. This was the first time (and do you think LAST? I do) that I used partition backup. I will only use "clone disk" from here on.
I obviously have a call logged with Acronis Support (customerservice at Acronis dot com) but I would love a real answer as to why this happened. When I checked the backups after they were done, I did not execute any recovery operation. I booted from the recovery CD I had made (Acronis) and browsed to the backups just to make sure they were selectable. Then I canceled. But I would guess it was there, during that part, when the stupid program broke the MBR of the PC. I can't believe that simply copying the partition f__ed it up. But I guess it's possible. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Win7Pro 64bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E8400, OC'd to 3GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3P Memory 2G x2 CORSAIR DDR3 Graphics Card SAPPHIRE 100248L HD3850 512M RT Monitor(s) Displays Hannspree Screen Resolution 1920X1200 Keyboard Logitech illuminated Mouse Logitech mouseman wheel PSU PCP - WRCLS61EPS RT Case XCLIO Windtunnel ATX full tower, black, 1.0mm SECC Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda, 465G X2, RAID 0 Internet Speed broadband |
18 Mar 2013
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#12 | | Windows 7, 64 bit Home SP1, Win 8 Pro 64 bit Citrus Co, FL |
Another issue I had, with 2012 and 2013 versions, the Linux Version rescue discs did not work on my UEFI BIOS systems (two Z77 boards, one an ASUS and the other a Gigabyte). With the 2012 version it would boot but the screen was total garbage and not readable. The 2013 version would boot but there was no mouse/keyboard control.
I had to create a WinPE/Acronis rescue disc to work with these two motherboards. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number My Own Build OS Windows 7, 64 bit Home SP1, Win 8 Pro 64 bit CPU Intel i7 3770 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H Memory 16GB GSkill Ripsaw F3-14900CL9Q-16GBXL Graphics Card Sapphire HD7770 Sound Card RealTek Monitor(s) Displays Viewsonic VA2448 Series 24" LED Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Kensington wired Mouse Logitech Wireless PSU Antec High Current Gamer HCG-620M Modular Case Coolermaster HAF XM Cooling Corsair H80 Liquid cooling with aftermarket Nexus quiet fans Hard Drives 240GB Intel 520 SSD for Win 7
128GB OCZ Vertex 4 SSD for Win 8
1 TB Seagate drive for backup Internet Speed 40 MB/sec (Cable) Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Browser I.E9/Firefox Other Info Sonar X2 Professional 64 bit Recording Software with Roland Octa-Capture and MAudio Fast Track Ultra 8R recording interfaces, Frontier Tranzport wireless control unit, Behringer BCF2000 Control Surface.
Five USB connected optical drives for CD Audio production using Nero 11
Other systems: Desktop with i5 3550 CPU, LenovoZ560 Laptop with Win 7 64 bit HP, SP1, new iPad |
18 Mar 2013
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#13 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi Hafnarfjörður IS |
Hi there
I've been using Acronis for YEARS but ATM 2011 was (and IS a dog). Skip ATM 2012 as well. ATM 2013 is much better (works for W8 as well, GPT disks and UEFI protected boot backups too).
However you need to know EXACTLY what you are backing up these days -- it's not so simple merely taking a "bog standard" bootable image backup any more (although of course it should be).
GPT, Boot mechanisms, boot partitions. UEFI, protected boot etc add a whole slew of new variables into the equation.
Cheers
jimbo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi CPU Q9400 QUAD Motherboard P5QL-CM Memory 8GB Graphics Card On Motherborad Sound Card Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Apple Cinema display Mouse Toshiba wireless laser Hard Drives 4 X 1TB SATA Internet Speed > 20MB up |
18 Mar 2013
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#14 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |
[QUOTE=jimbo45;2328950
However you need to know EXACTLY what you are backing up these days -- it's not so simple merely taking a "bog standard" bootable image backup any more (although of course it should be).
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For an MBR boot "bog standard" using Windows inbuilt or (free/paid) Macrium Reflect is fine. I believe Macrium is fine with UEFI (not sure about the free version). I haven't bother with RAID so maybe this falls outside bog standard? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
19 Mar 2013
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#15 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi Hafnarfjörður IS |
[QUOTE=mjf;2329262] 
Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45;2328950
However you need to know EXACTLY what you are backing up these days -- it's not so simple merely taking a "bog standard" bootable image backup any more (although of course it should be).
[/QUOTE For an MBR boot "bog standard" using Windows inbuilt or (free/paid) Macrium Reflect is fine. I believe Macrium is fine with UEFI (not sure about the free version). I haven't bother with RAID so maybe this falls outside bog standard? Hi there
Can't help you here as I don't have any RAID devices. For HOME computers these days using RAID is probably overkill unless you are running an Internet server or something with a whole load of users.
Bog standard HDD's are reliable now so why waste time with RAID --it doesn't enhance performance and doesn't IMO bring anything to the table.
If you are running Fault tolerant data servers that need to be up and running 24 hrs a day then another issue. Home user computers even with a decent home LAN this is grossly overkill now.
At Home SSD's are the way to go for FAST Disk I/O and general system performance.
Cheers
jimbo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi CPU Q9400 QUAD Motherboard P5QL-CM Memory 8GB Graphics Card On Motherborad Sound Card Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Apple Cinema display Mouse Toshiba wireless laser Hard Drives 4 X 1TB SATA Internet Speed > 20MB up |
2 Weeks Ago
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#16 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |
Acronis True Image Home 2011 with Plus Pack is supposed to recognize GPT drives, but it doesn't for me. I've read that version 2013 with Plus Pack is supposed to but there's a lot of internet noise that 2013 doesn't support GPT even though it's supposed to. I can't get Windows 7 HP backup to work with my GPT drive even though that's supposed to work too.
Can't believe what that manufacturers say.
I'm hoping the 2011 with Plus Pack version works on Windows 8. | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number HP OS Windows 7 Professional x64 Memory 8 GB Screen Resolution 1024x768 External monitor Keyboard External USB Mouse Wireless external mouse Hard Drives 1 TB Internet Speed 10 Mbps/1 Mbps Antivirus Avast! 8 Browser Chrome |
2 Weeks Ago
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#17 | | |
Sometimes a small business owner is going to limit spending, and that's what I was up against when I was dealing with this Acronis TI Home 2011 paid version. She paid for it - she didn't want to pay again. And I had good luck with it previously. But if anyone is listening, take away one thing from all my blah blah blah - Use CLONE DISK, and clone each partition separately. DO NOT use PARTITION BACKUP. I suspect that her RAID array was toasted when I booted from the rescue disk (should call it the KILL DISK) and checked to see if the backups were valid (selectable with no MBR error message.) Note that I CANCELED immediately once I saw that it was possible to select and restore from the partition backups I made. This should not have killed the RAID array. I am pretty PO'd, still.
Also I emailed Acronis support with a plainly panic stricken RESPONSE NEEDED ASAP, CRITICAL FAULT - I AM DOWN etc. and it took them four or five days to get back to me. So bunk them.
And I totally disagree that RAID is overkill for a desktop PC, home or business. Unless you are an internet shopper or online gamer who does no work and your whole experience is cloud-based, I think RAID is a MUST. A mirror setup at the very least is a bare minimum. I have to rescue these folks when they crash. I'm am not looking to inflate my billable hours thru repetitive, mundane tasks like restoring stuff bit by bit. I want an image - Poof, you're back. Oh why thank you so much, that's nice of you to say - no I'm not a hero, just doing my job (Ha!)
If you build your own PC's and you don't build hardware-based fault tolerance into them, that's like... oh I dunno, only printing one copy of a very critical document and then going on a trip far away where you will need to refer to it often. Risky. Technically you can get it again, but it would be far less stressful to have an xtra if it got trashed. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Win7Pro 64bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E8400, OC'd to 3GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3P Memory 2G x2 CORSAIR DDR3 Graphics Card SAPPHIRE 100248L HD3850 512M RT Monitor(s) Displays Hannspree Screen Resolution 1920X1200 Keyboard Logitech illuminated Mouse Logitech mouseman wheel PSU PCP - WRCLS61EPS RT Case XCLIO Windtunnel ATX full tower, black, 1.0mm SECC Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda, 465G X2, RAID 0 Internet Speed broadband |
2 Weeks Ago
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#18 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by MikoDel If you build your own PC's and you don't build hardware-based fault tolerance into them, that's like... I assume you are still talking data backup? I'd love some tips on hardware fault tolerance apart from having more than one computer. Don't products like SyncToy, SyncBackFree give good backup security?
This is aside from ~ weekly system imaging. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 Acronis True Image Home 2011 - DON'T BUY IT problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:13 PM. | |