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Windows 7: Creating system image of HDD for re-image to SSD

04 Apr 2013   #21

win 7 HP 64bit
 
 

Hi WHS,

Here is the disk management snapshot http://i47.tinypic.com/2j49ekh.jpg
It doesnt have a normal 100MB partition. Im not sure what's in the system drive partition. Its been there since i got it. How do i find out whats in there?


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04 Apr 2013   #22

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Roo Boy View Post
Hi Kaktussoft,

Have you had success personally using Macrium when they is data that cant be moved by other defrag programs?
Yes!! Macrium (as most other backup programs) backups only used blocks and put that in the image. In the image is still described the size of the partition though.



On restore you can do with paritions:
  • keep original size
  • minimum size (so all data fits exactly)
  • maximum size (take all remaining sectors of physical disk)
  • manual adjust
  • You can even align the partition. Align it in case of SSD!! See screenshot on http://www.macrium.com/help/v5/Partition_Alignment.htm
  • You can even make the partition primary or logical. And make it active if you wish. But in case of a real clone...leave them as the were!
I did it maybe 8 times. Works without problems.

You gonna clone the harddisk by doing backup/restore... correct?

Or are you adding the partitions to a disk that already has 1 or more parititions? Tell me if that's the case. Then you need extra steps to do
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04 Apr 2013   #23

win 7 HP 64bit
 
 

Hi K,

I have made an image of the harddisk using Windows 7 "Create Image" utility in back up and restore. I havent used Macrium yet.
I have saved the Image to an external HDD.
I tried to use the Perfect Disk tutorial to move the immovable blocks on the partition. But it made it worse. In stead of 1 block that i couldnt move which was located in the middle of C partition, now i have lots of blocks in the bottom half of the partition and some right at the very end. So shrink volume only allows me to shrink by 256MB now!!
Its doing my head in. Everyone said this worked for them but not for me

Ok, you said that the image still described the size of the partition and I think this is what the problem will be. If i cant shrink the partition then i cant write it to the small SSD right?
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04 Apr 2013   #24

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Roo Boy View Post
Hi K,

I have made an image of the harddisk using Windows 7 "Create Image" utility in back up and restore. I havent used Macrium yet.
I have saved the Image to an external HDD.
I tried to use the Perfect Disk tutorial to move the immovable blocks on the partition. But it made it worse. In stead of 1 block that i couldnt move which was located in the middle of C partition, now i have lots of blocks in the bottom half of the partition and some right at the very end. So shrink volume only allows me to shrink by 256MB now!!
Its doing my head in. Everyone said this worked for them but not for me

Ok, you said that the image still described the size of the partition and I think this is what the problem will be. If i cant shrink the partition then i cant write it to the small SSD right?
Use Partition Wizard bootable CD to resize the partition. But why shrink???? Not needed at all when using macrium
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04 Apr 2013   #25

win 7 HP 64bit
 
 

Hi K,

i used the bootable CD and reduced the partition to 90GB

So are you saying all i need to do now is use macrium to create the images of the new 90GB partition and the existing 1.17GB partition and then reimage to new SSD?
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04 Apr 2013   #26

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Roo Boy View Post
Hi K,

i used the bootable CD and reduced the partition to 90GB

So are you saying all i need to do now is use macrium to create the images of the new 90GB partition and the existing 1.17GB partition and then reimage to new SSD?
Once again... shrinking wasn't necessary at all!
  1. create one image of both partitions. So backup both paritions at once. Put the image on external drive
  2. Boot from macrium reflect rescue CD. Restore both partitions to new empty ssd. Be sure the partitions are algined!!
that's all youi have to do.
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04 Apr 2013   #27

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I already told you that in #22 !
Only thing to do afterwards if booting from SSD:

System Protection - Turn On or Off

disable system protection on any ghost disks (missing) listed there. Enable system protection the way you want on both partitions. If you quit the dialog and reenteer it... missging disks are not listed anymore. Sometimes (90% of cases) it doesn't hold the settings after partition move.
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04 Apr 2013   #28

win 7 HP 64bit
 
 

Ok thanks,
Ill give macrium a go. I'm going out to buy the SSD tomorrow but wanted to get the HDD sorted first.
Apologies for frustration. Ive been off work with food poisoning and my head is just not with it.

p.s. i reduced the partition size as i was lead to believe that there may be a conflict based on your comment above "In the image is still described the size of the partition though".

The way i understood this was that although macrium will only copy the block of data it will still state that the drive size is 500GB. Which obviously wouldnt work if this is what you meant but i think i misunderstood you so apologies for that
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04 Apr 2013   #29
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Roo Boy View Post
Hi WHS,

Here is the disk management snapshot http://i47.tinypic.com/2j49ekh.jpg
It doesnt have a normal 100MB partition. Im not sure what's in the system drive partition. Its been there since i got it. How do i find out whats in there?
Not sure what they have in that partition. It is too small for a full recovery partition and too big for a system partition. But it does contain the bootmgr. Maybe they put some tools there too. What is the make of the PC ??

Anyhow, regardless of what the partition is, I suggest you copy the bootmgr to C before you do anything. Just follow my little tutorial (to the letter please) and then you can forget about this strange partition and C will be 'self contained'.

Bootmgr - Move to C:\ with EasyBCD
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04 Apr 2013   #30

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Roo Boy View Post
Hi WHS,

Here is the disk management snapshot http://i47.tinypic.com/2j49ekh.jpg
It doesnt have a normal 100MB partition. Im not sure what's in the system drive partition. Its been there since i got it. How do i find out whats in there?
Not sure what they have in that partition. It is too small for a full recovery partition and too big for a system partition. But it does contain the bootmgr. Maybe they put some tools there too. What is the make of the PC ??

Anyhow, regardless of what the partition is, I suggest you copy the bootmgr to C before you do anything. Just follow my little tutorial (to the letter please) and then you can forget about this strange partition and C will be 'self contained'.

Bootmgr - Move to C:\ with EasyBCD
just assign SYSTEM_DRV a volume letter (at least temporary). Now you can see what's in it.
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