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Windows 7: System Image with Ubuntu Dualboot?

21 Apr 2013   #1
chromium

Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit
 
 
System Image with Ubuntu Dualboot?

Hello im planning on making a system image of my windows 7 hdd(365gb partition). I currently have ubuntu installed on another 100gb partition, and the bootloader is grub2.

When i make the system image will the fact that ubuntu's bootloader is being used instead of win7, affect how the system image is made? If i restore it will it boot properly?

also ive read that windows system image is unreliable. Is this true? if so, does anyone have any better suggestions on how to backup my whole win7 drive?

Thanks


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23 Apr 2013   #2
Mark Phelps

Win7 Pro 32-bit, Win8 Pro 32-bit
 
 

First of all, Ubuntu's boot loader is ONLY being used to boot Ubuntu; it can not boot Windows -- only the Windows boot loader does that. GRUB hands off control to the Windows boot loader.

Second, if Win7 came preinstalled on your PC, there is likely a small partition containing the Windows boot loader files. IF that's the case, when you make an image backup, be SURE to include that small partition, as well. You need that partition in order to boot Windows.

If you later restore Windows using the same tool that you used to image it, then no, that is not going to affect Ubuntu in any way.

I don't use Windows System imaging; instead, I use Macrium Reflect -- the FREE version will do image backups and restores.

And finally, MS insists on using the word "drive" when they actually mean "partition". You don't have a Windows 7 "drive" -- because if you did, there would be no partitions on that "drive" containing anything else. Instead, you have (likely) a Win7 boot partition, and a Win7 OS partition.
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23 Apr 2013   #3
chromium

Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit
 
 

If I use macrium will it backup Ubuntu as well?
I want a backup only of my win7 partition.
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23 Apr 2013   #4
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

With free Macrium you can image (backup) any partition. It does not matter what the content is (Windows, Ubuntu, Data, whatever). But as Mark said, do not forget to also backup the small 100MB system partition (if you have it). That you need to image only once as long as you do not add/delete an OS.
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23 Apr 2013   #5
chromium

Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit
 
 

so basically i just need to backup my windows 7 partition and the 100mb partition.
As long as i do this, it will boot properly if i restore despite the fact that ubuntu's grub is my current bootloader?
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23 Apr 2013   #6
Kaktussoft

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

post screenshot of disk management with all fields visible. Do it in win7
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23 Apr 2013   #7
chromium

Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit
 
 

-diskmgmt.png

-The C: partition is windows 7
-The 953 MB is a swap partition for ubuntu
-99.08 GB parition is ubuntu


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23 Apr 2013   #8
Kaktussoft

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chromium View Post
Attachment 265277

-The C: partition is windows 7
-The 953 MB is a swap partition for ubuntu
-99.08 GB parition is ubuntu
Thanx for screenshot. Are you sure grub is the main bootmanager which continues to windows bootmanager if you select "windows" in grub menu?
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23 Apr 2013   #9
chromium

Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit
 
 

I think grub is the main bootloader. When i boot up my pc, it goes to grub. If i choose windows, it directly boots windows. It doesnt go into another windows bootloader.

Heres the output of the bcdedit command:

Code:
Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier              {bootmgr}
device                  partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1
description             Windows Boot Manager
locale                  en-US
inherit                 {globalsettings}
integrityservices       Enable
default                 {current}
resumeobject            {83f1add9-73c9-11e2-9ab2-877cfe5d3724}
displayorder            {current}
toolsdisplayorder       {memdiag}
timeout                 30

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier              {current}
device                  partition=C:
path                    \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description             Windows 7
locale                  en-US
inherit                 {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence        {83f1addb-73c9-11e2-9ab2-877cfe5d3724}
recoveryenabled         Yes
osdevice                partition=C:
systemroot              \Windows
resumeobject            {83f1add9-73c9-11e2-9ab2-877cfe5d3724}
nx                      OptIn
Thanks again
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23 Apr 2013   #10
Kaktussoft

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chromium View Post
I think grub is the main bootloader. When i boot up my pc, it goes to grub. If i choose windows, it directly boots windows. It doesnt go into another windows bootloader.

Heres the output of the bcdedit command:

Code:
Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier              {bootmgr}
device                  partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1
description             Windows Boot Manager
locale                  en-US
inherit                 {globalsettings}
integrityservices       Enable
default                 {current}
resumeobject            {83f1add9-73c9-11e2-9ab2-877cfe5d3724}
displayorder            {current}
toolsdisplayorder       {memdiag}
timeout                 30
 
Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier              {current}
device                  partition=C:
path                    \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description             Windows 7
locale                  en-US
inherit                 {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence        {83f1addb-73c9-11e2-9ab2-877cfe5d3724}
recoveryenabled         Yes
osdevice                partition=C:
systemroot              \Windows
resumeobject            {83f1add9-73c9-11e2-9ab2-877cfe5d3724}
nx                      OptIn
Thanks again
So grub is in MBR and jumps to partition 3 (or maybe 4?) to load grub menu. If you select WINDOWS it jumps to "system reserved" the active partition and starts win7 bootmanager. You don't see it because it has only 1 entry (win7) which starts automatically.

Use macrium reflect free as backup. MBR will be backupped automatically.

The restoration of the MBR is controlled by a restore option, under WinPE, select the Advanced Options link on the final page to view this option.
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