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Windows 7: Restore Points Disappering

13 Oct 2009   #1
detailer

Win7 Ultimate Enterprise 64bit
 
 
Restore Points Disappering

Does anyone know why I lose my restore points after an "optimized" defrag? I have used several of my favorites that worked well with XP,but 7 will have no part of it.I have Microsoft Software Shadow Copy Provider and Volume Shadow Copy enabled and set to run at start up.If I disable either of those,System Restore does not operate properly(no restore points are created)Tried so far were Smart Defrag,Defrag Express,My Defrag,and JK which claimed to be "shadow copy aware" Please help an XP guy that skipped over Vista.


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13 Oct 2009   #2
torrentg

7600.20510 x86
 
 

Are you dual booting perhaps? That will mess restores up, if so. There's ways around that too I think. I don't use this feature so I dunno.

O&O Defrag will not exhibit this behavior. It even lets you know that shadow copies are enabled when it's defragging, at the bottom.

lol I have the opposite problem. Something, possibly WU, keeps on enabling my restore points and then I have to go and turn it off. O&O actually alerts me to this.
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13 Oct 2009   #3
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Hello Detailer,

This was a issue when dual booting with XP and Vista as well. You can use the same tutorial below to hide Windows 7 from XP by just substituting Windows 7 for Vista in the tutorial. This will need to be done inside XP.

System Restore Points - Stop XP Dual Boot Delete - Vista Forums

Hope this helps,
Shawn
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14 Oct 2009   #4
detailer

Win7 Ultimate Enterprise 64bit
 
 
Not Dual Boot

Thanks guys-but only 7 on this PC-any other ideas?
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14 Oct 2009   #5
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

After some digging around, I found this that may help. Increasing your maximum disk space used by System Restore for restore points and shadow copies may help.

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Defragging does not change files (it only defragments or moves them), but it does change the disk (moving a file is a change to the disk). The Shadow Copy service remembers all these changes in big files in the "C:\System Volume Information\...." folder. When the total amount of diskspace used by shadow copies exceeds a threshold then the oldest snapshot (restore point) is automatically deleted.
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14 Oct 2009   #6
detailer

Win7 Ultimate Enterprise 64bit
 
 
Thanks Brink

Going from 6% (which was twice what I used for XP) to 16%-not sure as even with only one or two restore points on hand,they are deleted after defrag.Very tricky finding what plays nicely with 7,and have needed system restore a few times already.Also a big believer in the optimized defrag,so it seems I can't have my cake and eat it too
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14 Oct 2009   #7
quiqsilver

Windows 7 x64
 
 

The only solution is to use a cluster size of 16KB or larger.

Shadow copies may be lost when you defragment a volume
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14 Oct 2009   #8
detailer

Win7 Ultimate Enterprise 64bit
 
 
quiqsilver

Thanks for that link-interesting in deed-also very nice that your first post was to help someone out,as opposed to seeking help-very rare and greatly appreciated
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15 Oct 2009   #9
harpua

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 (Retail)
 
 

I've found the latest version of O&O Defrag to play very nicely with W7 and system restore. It is the best defrag app I've tried to date and the one I'm now using. (Won out over Perfect Disk, because it is lighter on resources while operating in the background and seems to have better optimization algorithms.)
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15 Oct 2009   #10
detailer

Win7 Ultimate Enterprise 64bit
 
 
harpua

Thanks-Tried O&O,and you're right-restore points stayed intact.I've got a 30 day trial of Pro.Is there a free version,and does it play with 7 as well??
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