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Windows 7: Can't open system recovery?

23 Oct 2013   #91
TyGuy96

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Alright, so the windows 7 starter installed successfully, and I downloaded the network driver from the 1010. The background image is just black, and the only desktop icon is the recycle bin. I think I am still missing a few files or drivers.

To clear things up with the recovery stuff:
My desktop (Main workstation) no longer has the HP_Recovery data, because I accidentally formatted the drive.
My HP mini 1010 has already created the recovery media once, so it won't let me create it again.
My 16 GB usb has the windows 7 installation on it.
My 4 GB usb has partition wizard on it.
Roxio is not on any of my machines.


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23 Oct 2013   #92
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Nah, the Win7 install should have loaded all the necessary files to boot up.

Your 1071 drive sb two partitions (100 or 200 MB sysres and the rest allocated to C: (boot, page, crash dump...)

Please run a BIOS disk test and also post a pic of dsk mgmtn.

While that's running, use the 101 to download Quickweb from HP.

Compare your 1010 and 1071 BIOS settings. What I read about the mini is that it expects to boot into quickweb and the switch over to Windows.
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23 Oct 2013   #93
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Ummm, I guess you can't get a Disk Mngmt screenshot.

What happens if you click on the Recycle bin?

What happens if you hit the Windows Key? (spacebar row of the keybd with the windows logo on it)

If all else fails, boot with the Win7 stick and get to command prompt

diskpart
lis dis
sel dis # (where # is your HD)
det dis
lis par

sel par 1
det par
det vol

sel par 2
det par
det vol

exit

Drive letter of par 1 from diskpart
for example f: (could be c: )

cd \
dir /a
exit


do a few commands at a time and snap a picture, post the results.

Thanks
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23 Oct 2013   #94
TyGuy96

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Here is the disk management of the 1071


Here's the 1010's


The recycle bin is the usual recycle bin, so is the windows key (opens the menu).
Here are all programs in the windows menu.


Something I forgot to mention earlier is that when I was following this tutorial, I skipped step 14, because I didn't want to remove the service cover while the computer was on. I thought that I would be able to activate it afterwards. When I ran Windows Anytime Upgrade, I entered the product key, but it said
Quote:
Enter a different upgrade key

The upgrade key you entered is for an edition of Windows that does not work with Windows Anytime Upgrade. Enter a different upgrade key.
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23 Oct 2013   #95
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Now I see the problem has been fixed and as I said about that Ubuntu stick now might be a good time to make one in case you go south again maybe even clone / image that dive to an external drive.

In any event I would -personally of course - make a note of the activation code it will be on the sticker or find it through Speccy or SIW and reload the 7 using this Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 that way you can have bloat free 7 on the machine and repatriate the data from the external drive afterwarsds and still have the original stuff on the external.

Now in my twisted way of thinking you could also disassemble that external and put the HDD from it into the machine.
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23 Oct 2013   #96
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

There's a lot in this post. If you're not sure - read the tutorial linked carefully for the answer.
Still stumped? Stop and ask.

Ty, I guess I got confused when you said all you could see was a black screen and the recylce bin.

Anyway, it looks as though the install went well.

I don't know why you tried to use Upgrade Anytime - the tutorial doesn't mention that.

Use Option Two in this tutorial: Activate Windows 7 Online. You'll have to use the COA on the sticker. You cannot use the value stored on the machine at this time - later yes after you use the COA to activate.

You can install the network drivers on the 1071 if not already done.

Run check disk on C:

Run defrag THREE times on C: - it will need to boot

Then I want to remap the HD.

You have about 149 GB on your C: partiton using about 12 GB. I have lots of apps on my system and am only using about 40 GB. So I'm going to recommend the following allocation. The only hard rule is HP_TOOLS

Part 1: 100 MB - already exists, nothing to be done
Part 2: C: -> shrink to 60 GB
See Option One in Partition or Volume - Shrink
In the amount to shrink enter: 91136
The size displayed in the after shrink area should be close to 61440. I can't be exact becuase there are fractional GB.
After the shrink Disk Management will show the size in GB, you're looking for about 60 GB

Launch an Elevated Command Prompt
enter Diskpart
sel dis 0
cre par ext
exit
exit

Back to Disk Mgmnt
select the extended partition
right click
create 3 logical drives (2 NTFS, 1 FAT32)
1st logical: 42 GB (43010 MB), format NTFS, Letter D
2st logical: 42 GB (43010 MB), format NTFS, Letter E
3rd logical: what ever space remains; sb about 5GB, format FAT32, Letter F, label HP_TOOLS

This differs from the 1010. You don't have the recovery media, so you won't need a partition to hold it.
No Recovery partition
HP_TOOLS is drive letter F - the only important things are FAT32 and HP_TOOLS label. The letter and size are not important.

Run check disk on all of the new partitons

Install the 'UEFI' diagnostics to the FAT32 partition. i think it automatically installs on HP_TOOLS, but if it asks, tell it where to go -> F:\

This saves a lot of time Windows Update Rollup:A hidden Patch Tuesday gem: A Windows 7 hotfix rollup

Then run Windows update manuallly until there is nothing offered.

Check Device Manager for missing drivers (WU might give you a few) and look for them on the 1071 downloads page.

Do NOT load any unecessary HP Software - only the missing drivers.

When all is done, defrag C: three times

Take a look at this to learn more about libraries and how you can use th two new partitons to store things off the c: drive.
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23 Oct 2013   #97
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

John,

I think TyGuy is exhausted from this exercise... I know I am. So let Ty make a mental note of the Ubuntu option.

I think it is a good idea to backup the system AFTER he finishes setting it up.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Now I see the problem has been fixed and as I said about that Ubuntu stick now might be a good time to make one in case you go south again maybe even clone / image that dive to an external drive.
Gee John, we just went through a clean install!!!!! There's no need for the Clean OEM install.

The only COA Ty can use is the one on the sticker. The Upgrade Anytime option Ty chose was an error. I think I gave the instructions / tutorial to correct that.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
In any event I would -personally of course - make a note of the activation code it will be on the sticker or find it through Speccy or SIW and reload the 7 using this Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 that way you can have bloat free 7 on the machine and repatriate the data from the external drive afterwarsds and still have the original stuff on the external.
Nah, why waste a 1TB exteranl drive in a Win7 starter machine?
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Now in my twisted way of thinking you could also disassemble that external and put the HDD from it into the machine.
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24 Oct 2013   #98
TyGuy96

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quick update,

when I entered 31136 to shrink the C: drive, it wouldn't let me.


Also,
148.95 GB = 152524.8 MB.
60 GB = 61440 MB.
152524.8 - 61440 = 91084.8.
Should I be entering that number?
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24 Oct 2013   #99
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

To get more shrink space, you're going to have to do a bit more work.

There is the hibernation file - turn off hibernation
elevated command prompt
powercfg -h off

There are restore points - turn off system restore
Control Panel -> System -> System Protection
select c:
Configure button
click radio button - turn off system protection
answer yes to prompt about deleting all RPs

There is the page file
Click the Advanced Tab on the System Properties dialog box
click the Performance settings button
click the advanced tab on the Performance Options dialog
click change Virtual Memory
untick Automatically manage.....
highlight/select c:
click custom size radio button
put 500 in both min and max
click set
Answer ok to delete RPs

Ok out of the System Propeties dialog

Restart

Clean disk
defrag 3 times

Shrink the page file, post an image BEFORE and AFTER so I see what you see.


Thanks
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24 Oct 2013   #100
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

I think you grasp the basic idea, but don't worry too much about exact numbers. My original calculations forgot to account for the hibernation, page, and RPs disk usage. I only used the raw numbers from your posts (150 GB total - 60 GB C: = 90 GB extended)

I'm trying to give you ABOUT 60 GB for the C: drive and ABOUT 90 GB for the extended partition.

Just a note on MB /GB calculations: I've found that by adding 2 to the calcualtion gives a nice round number in Windows. Using 40 GB as an example
40 * 1024 = 40960 Windows shows 39.9 GB
40960 + 2 = 40962 Windows shows 40 GB

It really doesn't matter though.

As an exercise to the student , post what you think the size of the three logical drives should be.

Hint: the HP_TOOLS logical drive sb between 4 & 5 GB.. the other two depend on what shrink gives you.

Bill
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