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Windows 7: Question about Resetting to Out-Of-Box condition ..

30 Jun 2014   #11
Dr Amr

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
I also think it looks like you did a Windows System image restore (not a factory or out of box restore). So the first system reserved and the operating, C partitions have been restored.
As far as I've seen HP partition their systems into 4 partitions - a system reserved; a factory restore, an OS, and a Tools partition. This very inflexible but that's the way HP seem to do it.
It looks like the factory restore has been removed and you have an OS partition and an extended partition containing 2 logical drives. Did you or someone else repartition your PC?
I'm the one who repartitioned my hard drive and that was before i did the "Restore"
And i expected that partitioning to be undone and that didn't happen , that's why i'm confused .


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30 Jun 2014   #12
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

I don't see the HP factory recovery partition. Did you delete it when you repartitioned? If yes then you can't do a factory recovery (out of box) from your hard drive.
Did you make factory recovery DVDs (2-3 DVDs only) when you bought your PC? If no then you can't do a factory recovery.
7 DVDs would be about the right size for a system image as we mentioned above.
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30 Jun 2014   #13
Dr Amr

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

I didn't delete any partitions ..
And they are exactly 7 dvds that i made ...
can you figure this out ??
Well the question now .. are my system files new after that process that i did ( which i think is restore ) or is it the same old ones ?? Because my laptop is now faster than before and has only the the programs installed only as out of box condition ??!!
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30 Jun 2014   #14
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

I don't really have any more to say at this stage. I've asked others if they could comment.
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30 Jun 2014   #15
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

There are a few HP recovery options. It's not clear which one you selected, and I'm a little confused about the 7 DVDs you had for backup - how they paly into this.

Instead of me trying to understand, I'll just point you to the HP Recovery information. This might be just the thing for you to reach that Aha! moment. :)

Performing an HP System Recovery (Windows 7) | HP® Support

From what I read, it sounds as though you did a System Recovery.

I think you wanted a Factory Reset (all partitions deleted, original disk schema restored (System, C:\, D:\ Recovery, E:\HP_Tools)

The Minimized Image Recovery option is HP's attempt at reducing bloat ware (extra software bundled with the PC), but I think they still put their own extra software on the machine.

What does this mean? It means that the C:\ drive is a little smaller (-99 MB) and the System partition is a little bigger (+99 MB).

Windows 7 was reinstalled and your personal data was not disturbed.

If I am correct in my assumption that you did a System Recovery using the HP Recovery Manager, then you're machine is essentially running Windows as it was delivered by HP. The partitions didn't change because of the option you selected (System Recovery as opposed to Factory Reset).

Your choices depend on what you want to do.

If you want to really make it out-of-the-box, then select Factory Reset. You'll have to create the partitions as you want them, restore your data, run windows update, install and configure your favorite applications, and possibly move the default locations to your data partitions.....

If you're satisfied with only restoring Windows to the original HP delivered status, then you'll have to
run windows update, install your favorite applications, and possibly move the default locations to your data partitions.....
This is by far the least work and I recommend this.

There are a few questions I have:
Where is your User Profile (C:\Users\DrAmr ---OR--- somewhere on D:\ or E:\)
I ask this because you mentioned your data is on D:\ and E:\ and I'm not sure how you manage your data?
Do you just copy the data over to those volumes or do you use Libraries, or.... did you change the location of your special folders?

If that's not clear, help me understand how your data gets stored on the other volumes (D: & E:)

Bill
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30 Jun 2014   #16
gregrocker

 

Looks like you ran System Image Recovery? Is what's shown in that tutorial what actually transpired?

It's amazing you got all 7 DVD's to boot and run. The chance of a failure is why most save the image to external or internal HD.

Unless you've previously done a Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 you still have the same second-rate HP factory preinstall which is the worst install of Win7 one can have, larded with the worst load of bloatware in the industry.

I notice you still have the HP Tools Partitions which houses the bootable hardware diagnostics. You can boot the PC with ESC key to see if they will still run as they are valuable to have if so, or can be deleted if not.

If you want to actually experience native Win7 performance on the PC for the first time you should take some time to do a Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 which steps will result in a perfect install.
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30 Jun 2014   #17
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Amr View Post
I didn't delete any partitions ..
And they are exactly 7 dvds that i made ...
can you figure this out ??
Well the question now .. are my system files new after that process that i did ( which i think is restore ) or is it the same old ones ?? Because my laptop is now faster than before and has only the the programs installed only as out of box condition ??!!
Shorter answers:
Your system files are as they were when HP shipped the box
I think you did a System Recovery(so do you
The system files on C:\ are not the same old ones
Right - the only programs on your machine are the one HP ships with the machine.

You'll have to run Windows Update to bring your system current. Make sure you look at the Optional updates to get the drivers you need. When there are no more Windows Updates offered, look in Device manager and post any devices that are unknown of have an exclamation mark. Members can help you resolve those device drivers.

Of course, you will have to install any programs that you want to use - they no longer reside on your machine after the System Recovery. Anything you created with the programs are probably on D: or E: or in your backup discs.

Not as short as intended

Bill
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30 Jun 2014   #18
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Looks like you ran System Image Recovery? Is what's shown in that tutorial what actually transpired?
I think Dr Amr only did the System Recovery option
System Recovery: This option reformats the system drive (usually C:), reinstalls the original operating system, and reinstalls all the original hardware drivers and software. System Recovery does not impact user created partitions. If there are two hard drives, System Recovery modifies only the drive with the operating system.

I don't think the 7 DVDs came into play at all, I could be wrong.
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01 Jul 2014   #19
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

If you look at the disk management screenshot there is no factory restore partition. 7 DVDs give 7x4.7GB=32.9GB which has to be a system image.
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01 Jul 2014   #20
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
If you look at the disk management screenshot there is no factory restore partition. 7 DVDs give 7x4.7GB=32.9GB which has to be a system image.
Good point, well taken.

I know that HP create Recovery media takes up 4 discs on my laptop (3 for Recovery, 1 for drivers - not necessarily organized that way though), but I'm not certain what is on the discs used. I'll go back and read the thread again.

Dr Amr, please post a screen shot of the 1st disc contents as seen in Explorer - that might be useful.

Post# 7 states I have recovery discs ( 7 dvds ) that I made after I got my laptop , I made them through an option in the windows that said " make recovery discs " or something like that as I can remember.
Question about Resetting to Out-Of-Box condition ..

I don't recall if that is a Windows prompt or an HP prompt, but I'm leaning towards it being HP. If Dr Amr could answer the method used to restore the discs, that might shed some light on it. Was it the HP Recovery manager?

We'll need an answer from the good Dr then.

Bill
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