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Windows 7: Macrium etc Free Software--How to avoid CNET Virus/Adware/malware prog

27 Jan 2015   #31
DavidE

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I don't see it either.
I clicked on a few of the downloads in CNET and i didn't see a direct download link for any of them.
It looks like that article is about a year old, so maybe CNET has changed things ?


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27 Jan 2015   #32
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Hi mjf (from Australia--Wow!)

Thanks for your interest!

I appreicate your comparisons:

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DavidE View Post

..... Fortunately, for those who are sharp enough, you can see a Direct Download Link too. Its very small, but its there on most sites, including CNET.
Hmm I don't see it. Even on the Macrium website I see no link for a direct download of their free version.

When I download the downloader reflectdl.exe from majorgeeks and cnet they are byte for byte identical. I'd bet the same reflectdl.exe is what Macrium distribute to them all.

Always wondered if it was 100% genuine Macrium etc programs, but that was not my major concern or why I began this thread.....

Someone here (its only 4 pages why can't I see it now?) referred to those programs as "PUP"s Potentially Unwanted Programs... "if the shoe fits" as the proverb goes...

That is what I'm worried about...

I used to listen to all of the You tubes by CNET and they even had a television show (or still do?) examinaing computers and comparing and rating products, which I followed and listened to.

But----- I experienced and found out they got taken over by the 5 letter word "MONEY" and these ones: "GREED" and "MORE"

So they have filled up their download "button" with an installer, that loads all types of "PUP"s onto your computer!!

And downloading the "free" item also gets more and more onto your computer.

I just upgraded a Java (I should not have but it was flashing in my face for a week now) upgrade---and they said very very VERY clearly, "keeping these two boxes checked puts ASK toolbar on your comupter and makes ASK your default search engine" Well thank you for being so nicely obvious.... uncheck 2 boxes and thanks for the free upgrade Java!

I DON"T MIND THOSE AT ALL!

They ask you politely if you want them or not!

I complain that the CNET ones are hidden in their 30-40 page tiny type "accept license to use downloader" and if you do not want these extra programs..... well TOUGH LUCK! There is no "opt out button!" You just don't get the freebies from CNET Then!

So you see mjf, my question is not whether or not the actual free program is the correct one! I mean after all that I still trust CNET to deliver the goods.... I just don't want extra goodies inhabitating my computer---and taking hours of typing these long long long messages to nice people like you in this Forum asking HOW do I get rid of them!

(Someone said for one toolbar/item... you can't ever remove it---- tough luck kiddo!) (ON XP help Forum, not here)

So I've been BURNT over and over and since I need a new backup program to replace the one no longer sold..... I was thrown suddenly into the wide world of FREEWARE with all of the PUPs they can load on to me!

[Re-reading my post before posting it--I almost forgot to mention....--- yes mjf, thanks for saying what I was trying to check out before writing in to complain (hate complaining when others here worked so hard to provide a solution for me)
I saw just like you mjf, that there is NO direct download arrow.... anywhere else I look... I just am going to use Major Geeks as people here (and research on Google) seems so far, to support they are still a good downloading site, what CNET used to be so I will chance to take my Macrium I need for backups when I get my HDD from that site]

So that's the long story...... Thanks for doing the comparison... hope you didn't catch anything from CNET and other places that you didn't want on your computer when you did these for us!!

Thanks again mjf for sharing!
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27 Jan 2015   #33
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More articles about this

Thanks DavidE for reminding me....

I had some recent sites (I had a 2014 too!) complaining about CNET's "crapware" as one calls it.

See

Confirmed: CNET

and

Avoiding Adware in Installers | MalwareTips.com

and I do have a "mac" (I know a bad word to say here) So this shows the bad things CNET does is an "equal opportunity" PUPs with these being forced upon Mac users as well as PC users!

CNET's Download.com Adware Installer Bundled with Popular Apps - Advisory

For 2013 ones.... about the problem.... showing it is very pervasive...........
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27 Jan 2015   #34
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Sorry folks!
The robot on this site did it again.... why does it change my blue http:// links to words???
They are all ok, but other times they went to wrong addresses... no one answered what is going on in my other thread as I wrote toooo much other items... this got lost in the middle....
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27 Jan 2015   #35
whs
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27 Jan 2015   #36
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Really cool! Thanks for knowing my avatar....

How is that done? He has no "guide spots" as I've seen done in movies to plot his points and movements! Like magic without them!
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27 Jan 2015   #37
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No idea how it's done. I just picked that up from somewhere.
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27 Jan 2015   #38
mjf

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I'm sounding a bit like a broken record (?maybe people don't know what that expression means anymore) but in the context of downloading the free version of Macrium you download a program that performs the download - reflectdl.exe. This program is identical whether you download it from majorgeeks or cnet which Macrium point you to for their software. So I see no cnet risk for obtaining free Macrium.
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28 Jan 2015   #39
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No problem mjf!

I got what you said....

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
I'm sounding a bit like a broken record (?maybe people don't know what that expression means anymore) but in the context of downloading the free version of Macrium you download a program that performs the download - reflectdl.exe. This program is identical whether you download it from majorgeeks or cnet which Macrium point you to for their software. So I see no cnet risk for obtaining free Macrium.

LOL, I thought I was the only one left in Universe that used that expression--- I know what you said... still have "vinyl" ones (OK when I said that word "vinyl"---I can hear all the sounds of computers hanging up on this page now... that's not nice! Joking there)

I see where you get the impression about the reflectdll.exe

I'm not safe yet, so I'm not going to experiment--someone else can check CNET and post screen shots for me if they want to..

Last time I used CNET for a download... BEFORE (see? its "one of the early steps") I can download anything like "reflectdll.exe" which is a program! from the CNET site, they insist that I have their "downloader " program.....

NO it did not matter if I had a "downloader" from them months/year earlier as CNET says it always has to be done again, the latest version, or ELSE YOU CANT GET THEIR FREE OFFERS OF PROGRAMS!

That is it mjf, that is what is the big difference between CNET today and sites like Major Geeks (I HOPE!!!!! others have assured me its true)

Because with their (CNET's) Free downloader program, which will then install the "refloectdll.exe" "installer" program for you to get FREE copy of Macrium,

comes all of the PUPs Spy Ad-Ware programs we're trying to avoid here.....

That's the point, so appreciate your comparisons and no you do not sound like a broken record as your point is valid too, it is of course the real program..... it does use the same reflectdll.exe installer,

BUT its the one without the added "bells and whistles" (remember that older phrase?) that I want installed in the computer..... I just want a "plain vanilla" (with vanilla beans.... does anyone make those anymore?) type of download in today's world..

Hope that explains everything mjf.... if not write back.... for if you have questions others in the future reading this will have questions too!

Thanks!
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28 Jan 2015   #40
mjf

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Last time I used CNET for a download... BEFORE (see? its "one of the early steps") I can download anything like "reflectdll.exe" which is a program! from the CNET site, they insist that I have their "downloader " program.....
When you go here
Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - Information and download
then select the cnet download button and you get
Macrium etc Free Software--How to avoid CNET Virus/Adware/malware prog-cnetclip.jpg
When I download the file reflectdl.exe it is bit for bit identical with the same file downloaded from majorgeeks (I used a hex editor file comparison).

Maybe cnet used to give you their custom downloader and maybe they still do for other downloads but not for this one at this time of posting. I'm not making a general support statement for cnet and if they ever offer me their custom downloader I will reject it.


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