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Windows 7: I dont know why but i cant seem to run "system restore" in win 7 x64

09 Mar 2015   #1
sebastian869

windows 7 x64 home premium
 
 
I dont know why but i cant seem to run "system restore" in win 7 x64

MY C: drive is SSD HDD so in the settings i have the turned off system restore on drive c:
But my d: drive is a reg raptor and i do have system restore on there and for some reason i cant use system restore. Dont know how to access it so that i can run system restore from there

I REALLY NEED HELP from someone who whos their stuff in this case.

I really dont know whats going on with my comp when i try and launch an avg word file (Hardware To Do List.docx) i get "winword.exe -system error
the prog can start becauase oart.dll is missing from your comp. Try reinstalling the prog to fix problem. (And there's an "OK" button. How i got like this i have NO CLUE!. I dont get why u cant do a "system restore " and make this go away but since its on drive "d" no "c" its acting like it does not exist.

this time it does nothing, it says systen restire is turned off, though i have turned off "c" but enabled "D"

" [IMG]mshelp://Help/?id=Microsoft.Windows.Resources.ExpandArrow[/IMG] To turn on system protection for a particular disk

  1. You can't turn on system protection for a disk that is formatted using the FAT or FAT32 file systems.
  2. [IMG]mshelp://help/?id=Microsoft.Windows.Resources.ShellExecuteTopicIcon[/IMG]Click to open System.
  3. In the left pane, click System protection. [IMG]mshelp://windows/?id=18abb370-ac1e-4b6b-b663-e028a75bf05b[/IMG] If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.
  4. Under Protection Settings, click the disk, and then click Configure.
  5. Choose one of the following:
    • To be able to restore system settings and previous versions of files, click Restore system settings and previous versions of files.
    • To be able to only restore previous versions of files, click Only restore previous versions of files.
  6. Click OK, and then click OK again.

[IMG]mshelp://Help/?id=Microsoft.Windows.Resources.CollapseArrow[/IMG][IMG]mshelp://Help/?id=Microsoft.Windows.Resources.ExpandArrow[/IMG] To turn off system protection for a particular disk



System properties menu (THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE IS)


AVAILABLE DRIVES: C: SYSTEM PROTECTION OFF
HARD DRIVE D: PROTECTION IS ON!


Thus i dont understand why i have no protection even thought this says u i do and how can I restore the "protection on drive


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11 Mar 2015   #2
NimoTony

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NimoTony View Post
I apologize in advance if this post seems rude in any way...
from reading the specs of your machine--it seems like you have a really well built machine--but--you apparently didn't/haven't done much research on SSDs...
when using an SSD - one of the first things a quality SSD management program will do is 'shut off system restore' the reasoning is sys restore will constantly write to your SSD and 'can' eventually brick your SSD (it's far easier to restore the whole OS than to keep replacing your drives) -SSDs have a limited number of write cycles and once you've used them up it becomes read only. All NAND memory is like this--that's why thumb drives eventually wear out.
additionally--setting sys restore on a storage drive will NOT save any system setting because there aren't any--you can only restore 'files' that are on those drives

note: I believe you can force system restore to be 'on' but knowing that it will eventually 'brick' your drive--why would you want to?

read this:
The ultimate guide to proper SSD management | PCWorld
and read this:
The Complete Guide to Solid-State Drives
I posted this yesterday in the string that you originally started
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11 Mar 2015   #3
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

If you want to do system restore, you have to have restore points on C. The restore points on D don't help here. They can be used to retrieve data you lost on D, but that does not help for C. Restore points always stay with the partition where they are enabled and apply only to that partition.

And btw - this passage from the above quote is completely incorrect. I enable restore points on 6 systems with SSDs since 2008 and never had a problem. The old saga of too many writes is long obsolete. Your SSD would be long in the garbage before you can 'brick' it with write operations.

Quote:
one of the first things a quality SSD management program will do is 'shut off system restore' the reasoning is sys restore will constantly write to your SSD and 'can' eventually brick your SSD
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12 Mar 2015   #4
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

System restore will not hurt a SSD no more than it will hurt a hard drive.

I use several SSD's. I even use a SSD for external backups. They are designed to be use so just use them and quiet worry about them.

I never move restore points off of the partition they are to restore.

Windows 7 and programs are on (C) and the restore points for (C) are on (C).

I would suggest not to worry about reads/wrights on a quality SSD; just use the SSD and enjoy it.

This forum uses SSD's on it's server in Raid. Just think of how many read/wrights they get.
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12 Mar 2015   #5
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote:
I never move restore points off of the partition they are to restore.
Actually in the desktop Windows you can't move them - only in the server versions.
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12 Mar 2015   #6
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Thanks Wolfgang.
I didn't know that. I'm guessing because I have never tried to move restore points.

I try to make it simple for my 3 brain cells.
I select the amount of space allowed for restore points (5%).
I and Windows 7 create restore points and I let Windows 7 put the restore points where ever it wants to. Keeping in mind that Windows 7 is what has to find the restore points when requested. I wouldn't move restore points if I could. Why would one want to hide restore points from Windows 7?
I think restore points is another thing in Windows 7 that some just try to over think and out smart Windows 7. Not going to happen.
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12 Mar 2015   #7
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

The restore points are in the shadowstorage - usually not accessible by the user except with special programs like Shadow Explorer. The shadowstorage is reused as soon as it is full with oldest out and newest in. A system restore point is on average 500MB to 1GB. So a 10GB shadowstorage is good for about 15 restore points.

I recommend restore points for all partitions except the system and recovery partitions. Reason - you can always try to recover stuff with shadow explorer.

The shadows command is vssadmin. Put vssadmin /? into cmd and you get the options.

Now you know everything I know, LOL.
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