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Windows 7: Suggestion for my backup plan?

29 Mar 2015   #41
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RolandJS View Post
...once there was a 2-3 day BATchfile hiccup. One that hiccup was fixed, backups were actually taking place, and such were indeed restorable [folder or file].
You brought up another danger of automated backup systems. If not closely monitored, a hiccup could disable the system and one could go for a long period without any backups being made, often discovering the hiccup only after needing to recover data only to find it isn't there. In most cases, the people who most want to use an automated scheme are going to be the ones least likely to monitor the system to make sure it is working (unless they hire an IT specialist to do the monitoring and system maintenance for them, which most will be too cheap to do).


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29 Mar 2015   #42
RolandJS

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

LadyF's sig: Backup, backup, backup! -- are apples of gold upon a silver platter. Her post is pretty much the last word. Time now to either UserDo or DataDie. Also, my description of server backup was all in-house, with a backup copy of backups sent offsite.
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29 Mar 2015   #43
RolandJS

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

LadyF, we posted at the same time. Hope the powers that be follow your great advice.
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29 Mar 2015   #44
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RolandJS View Post
LadyF's sig: Backup, backup, backup! -- are apples of gold upon a silver platter. Her post is pretty much the last word. Time now to either UserDo or DataDie. Also, my description of server backup was all in-house, with a backup copy of backups sent offsite.
LOL! I stole the first half of my last sig like from the sig line of a MAC repairman over on another forum, only I cleaned it up a bit. His opinion of people who do not properly backup their data is rather low.

Some people feel my advice is more like horse apples.
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29 Mar 2015   #45
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RolandJS View Post
LadyF, we posted at the same time. Hope the powers that be follow your great advice.
I'm not holding my breath!
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29 Mar 2015   #46
cyberSAR

Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
 
 

It all comes down to how important your data is to you. It would be a PITA if I lost a weeks worth of data on my work machine but I would survive. If I lost a month I'd probably be out of business. On my home machines I don't care. I'd just lay over the image from a fresh install and call it a day. Nothing on it is that important to us. We don't save irreplaceable images of our deceased parents holding their grand kids.

I think any backup solution should be periodically tested for restores and should email or otherwise alert you on completion or failure.

Also, after living through a hurricane that damaged both my office and the secure location of our backups I realize the need to backup to a different geographical location. Fortunatley I didn't have the need but I couldn't even access the backups for over a month.

Live and learn. Do what works for you in your environment.
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29 Mar 2015   #47
pcwin

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RolandJS View Post
Oh, I may now understand what is meant by automation! Years ago, I worked for a small company, that put in place and invoked, a nightly backup from all data folders from all desktops [and connected laptops] onto a master backup/restore server partition. Is this what you are meaning? That server backup program worked great, only once there was a 2-3 day BATchfile hiccup. One that hiccup was fixed, backups were actually taking place, and such were indeed restorable [folder or file].
That is what I mean, I am doing something similar currently. I have scheduled 6AM incremental backup Acronis every day on my internal disk. I set the schedule once and I do not have to click anything at all in future.

As I heard storing backup in an external disk is a better solution, I thought of plugging in the external disk every night before I sleep, when I am sleeping the scheduled backup can automatically start by itself at 6AM while I am still sleeping. After I wake up, at around 8AM, I can just unplug the external hard disk. No need to waste time clicking any software.

Occasionally, I will manually run the "validate backup archive" in Acronis program to verify the backups are in good condition.

I intend to change to Macrium so I am analysing if Macrium can do the same thing. As I heard incremental backup is not that reliable, I am thinking of doing differential backup, and analysing other solutions Lady Fitzgerald has written. FreeFileSync seems not so friendly with automation and I am not sure how to setup schedule, so I thought of using just Macrium for all backup since Macrium is easier to setup scheduled backup.
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29 Mar 2015   #48
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

You do know that you need the Macrium Pro version for differential backups. Else you can use the AOMEI Backupper that has this function in the free version. That is a very easy to use program.
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29 Mar 2015   #49
pcwin

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RolandJS View Post
...once there was a 2-3 day BATchfile hiccup. One that hiccup was fixed, backups were actually taking place, and such were indeed restorable [folder or file].
You brought up another danger of automated backup systems. If not closely monitored, a hiccup could disable the system and one could go for a long period without any backups being made, often discovering the hiccup only after needing to recover data only to find it isn't there. In most cases, the people who most want to use an automated scheme are going to be the ones least likely to monitor the system to make sure it is working (unless they hire an IT specialist to do the monitoring and system maintenance for them, which most will be too cheap to do).
For my Acronis scheduled backup, if it is unable to complete a backup for that scheduled day, it will popup a message that backup has failed, I guess other software might have some warnings too.

I was thinking if differential backup will be safe (I guess 99% safe) since it only needs the first full backup and the differential backup day that you want to recover data to be in good condition. If the differential backup day is corrupted, the differential backup on day before the corrupted differential backup and the differential backup on the day after the corrupted differential backup would still be likely be in good condition because every differential backup is not "linked" to each other. Differential is only build on the changes since the first full backup. Correct me if I am wrong.
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30 Mar 2015   #50
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pcwin View Post
FreeFileSync seems not so friendly with automation and I am not sure how to setup schedule
Try this:
SyncToy - Backup User Data
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