Suspect System Images - Possible warning

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  1. mjf
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       #11

    DavidE said:
    On my triple boot test box i tested restoring a Win7 32 Bit image created on 3/18/2015.
    Are you saying your test environment is a 32 bit OS? I am using 64 bit.
    I get the problem using 2 different external USB3 HDDs. My OS is on a Crucial SSD. I have run imaging at least 5 times to identify what in the updates is causing the problem. Some of the updates enclosed in red appear to cause my problem. I don't all of them are the problem.
    Suspect System Images - Possible warning-msupdates2.jpg

    As long as I leave the ones in red out I can image and reimage without problem using Macrium and Windows. The SMART data for all 3 drives doesn't indicate a problem and it's unlikely that 2 externals are faulty.
    I'll need to keep working on the problem but it has me stumped at the moment.
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       #12

    Yes, my tests were done restoring Win 7 32 bit, fully updated except KB3035583 and KB2876229.
    I'm creating a new Win 7 64 bit image now, and i'll see if i can restore that.

    It looks like you use IE9, I'm fully updated with IE11, and i have Net Framework 4.5.2 installed.
    Just mentioning that, as it's a difference between yours and mine ...
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       #13

    mjf said:
    DavidE said:
    On my triple boot test box i tested restoring a Win7 32 Bit image created on 3/18/2015.
    Are you saying your test environment is a 32 bit OS? I am using 64 bit.
    I get the problem using 2 different external USB3 HDDs. My OS is on a Crucial SSD. I have run imaging at least 5 times to identify what in the updates is causing the problem. Some of the updates enclosed in red appear to cause my problem. I don't all of them are the problem.
    Suspect System Images - Possible warning-msupdates2.jpg

    As long as I leave the ones in red out I can image and reimage without problem using Macrium and Windows. The SMART data for all 3 drives doesn't indicate a problem and it's unlikely that 2 externals are faulty.
    I'll need to keep working on the problem but it has me stumped at the moment.
    I just created, verified, and restored a new Macrium free image of Win 7 64 bit.
    I have all the updates installed that you highlighted in red.
    No problems here.

    I do see a new optional update KB2952664 is available, published Today (2015-04-07).

    My test box is old hardware, Legacy Bios ...

    I certainly believe you have an issue, but with the testing i have done, i am still confident in Macrium backups for my PC.

    Something is different with our systems, if it's a wide spread problem, i expect other people will start reporting the problem ...
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  4. mjf
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       #14

    Thanks for checking David. As you say unless others start reporting issues the problem is at my end. I've had 3 years plus of many images and restores using both Windows inbuilt and Macrium without a problem. Maybe these recent security updates reveal some underlying hidden problem I have. With Macrium I can create, verify and mount the images without error but not restore now. The thought of a clean install with all the software I have installed
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       #15

    Yea, i understand your pain
    The only other thing i can think of is to install the "problem" updates in small groups or one at a time to see if you can find the culprit(s) causing the problem.
    Yea, that's a pita and takes a lotta time ... testing for the cause of this problem that way.
    But, maybe it's better than a clean install, ?????

    If i can answer any other questions about my configuration, hardware or software, let me know.

    In your SF system specs, it looks like you have 3 PC's according to what i see for Antivirus ...
    Do you have this issue on all your PC's ?
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  6. mjf
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       #16

    I went back to an earlier image that would restore and downloaded/installed all updates except optional drivers (as I always do) and the .NET Framework. This time it worked. I made 2 Windows inbuilt images and 2 Macrium images on 2 different external drives. All 4 restored. Could it be something associated with my system? - maybe.

    For me: Just because the system imaging completes successfully and updates complete "successfully" I won't have 100% confidence that that image can be restored. I will always have an image I have successfully restored and mark them as tested.
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       #17

    Glad to hear you have most of the updates installed.
    I always research driver updates before deciding if i want to install them.
    If you do get this problem again where Windows won't start after restoring an image you could try a Startup Repair.

    Startup Repair
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