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Windows 7: Restore points disappeared

21 Jan 2016   #1
markg2

Windows 7
 
 
Restore points disappeared

I'm posting this because I can't believe what happened happened.

Several days ago there were 2 restore points.

In the process of creating a new restore point the screen not only didn't show those points but was set to off for the system drive. No way I did this either awake or sleep walking.

I turned same back on and created a restore point.

I'm wondering if in conjunction with my post Insert USB flash drive--machine intermittent sys error? if these conditions are indicative of the OS becoming unstable.

Mark


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21 Jan 2016   #2
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

You are not the only one that observes irregular behavior of the system restore point facility. I always recommend to make your own images instead of restore points. The images you control and cannot disappear on you.

Imaging with free Macrium
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21 Jan 2016   #3
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Some 3rd party defrag program will mess up Restore Points.
They move the Restore Points where Windows 7 can't find them.

I totally agree with whs.
Backup using
Imaging with free Macrium is a great idea.
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21 Jan 2016   #4
markg2

Windows 7
 
 

I've created images since the first release of Ghost. Last year I got so fed up with Acronis seemingly doing what it wanted to on various backup scenarios and a (my) history of periodically not being able to restore a recently validated image or the initial image of a sequence saying it couldn't find the original and the program getting more confusing and unintuitive by the year that I uninstalled same from both our machines.

I've just read a bunch of recent positive posts regarding macrium reflect and have downloaded the program.

Thanks,

Mark
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21 Jan 2016   #5
maxseven

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 6.1 Build 7601 (SP1)
 
 

While I agree that it's best not to rely upon System Restore points too much, and instead backup regularly to image files, that your RPs are flaky indicates a problem of some sort to me that IMO you should take seriously and try to find/fix.

Maybe related to your USB woes; I would first make sure to chkdsk all drives, also do a sfc /scannow, then try Uwe Sieber's DriveCleanup to see if maybe there's something funky there. Open a command prompt and type

drivecleanup -t

to test and see what it wants to do. Then just drivecleanup and off it goes. I have never suffered any ill effects from using this tool but YMMV. It basic cleans-out any old information about external drives, "old' meaning any external drive that is not currently connected to the computer and appearing in Windows.
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21 Jan 2016   #6
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

In my opinion Restore Points and proper backups are two different things and two different purposes and methods.

One does not replace the other. I personally use both methods. I also use a Clone I update about once a week on a separate SSD as another method.

I use Macrium Reflect for backups and cloning.
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22 Jan 2016   #7
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

You are right Jack. Restore points and images complement each other. If those restore points would only be less volatile.
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22 Jan 2016   #8
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Yes the Restore Points are as volatile as the rest of the operating system.
That is why I wouldn't recommend Restore Points as a sole method and recommend backups also.

Very useful when they work properly and when not backup, backup, and more backups are required.

I personally don't have any problems with Restore Points but some do. Which means to me the system also has some other problems that need taken care of if they have restore problems.
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22 Jan 2016   #9
markg2

Windows 7
 
 

Okay, I'll bite, how do you run drivecleanup? I stuck the exe on her desktop, command prompt (right click run as admin), default location=C:\Users\Connie, cd desktop, typed drivecleanup -t and got unrecognized etc?

I edited my USB/flash drive post. When you do so, does the board send email notices as if the post were new?

I had run chkdsk just on C since I'm looking at the system. I just ran it on the second drive E and external D--no problems.

I ran scannow /f on C. No problems.
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22 Jan 2016   #10
maxseven

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 6.1 Build 7601 (SP1)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by markg2 View Post
Okay, I'll bite, how do you run drivecleanup? I stuck the exe on her desktop, command prompt (right click run as admin), default location=C:\Users\Connie, cd desktop, typed drivecleanup -t and got unrecognized etc?
Should have worked. Whereever you have placed DriveCleanup.exe, "Shift-Right-Click-Open command window here" then execute as you've apparently done.

Maybe you downloaded the 32-bit version and need the 64-bit? From the readme: "Under x64 editions of Windows only the x64 version works."
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