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Windows 7: Macrium v5 Users Opinions on Macrium v6

08 Feb 2016   #11
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DavidE View Post
For me the ability to create and verify a backup image in one process is what i really liked and sold me.
Everybody has preferences that are important to them. Verify only verifies the file bit integrity of the image, not the integrity of the final restore. If you have a drive going bad it may not verify. Given the verify takes about the same time as an image I prefer to carry it out manually and occasionally. I'd prefer to spend the extra time putting an image on a second drive.

I'm still not sold on the integrity of differentials - great maybe when everything is going fine.


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08 Feb 2016   #12
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

@Wolfgang
You know a lot more than me, so you know you would need to test V6 to see if it works better than V5 for you.

A main reason I've read for folks not liking V6 is the "Retention Rules" defaults, to delete old images.

That can be adjusted in the Macrium / Other Tasks / Edit Tasks / Retention Rules
I don't want Macrium or any program to auto delete my backups, and i've tested that Macrium doesn't with my settings.

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08 Feb 2016   #13
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

He's already said he doesn't use V6. Just adjust your settings to suit your preferences
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08 Feb 2016   #14
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DavidE View Post
For me the ability to create and verify a backup image in one process is what i really liked and sold me.
Everybody has preferences that are important to them. Verify only verifies the file bit integrity of the image, not the integrity of the final restore. If you have a drive going bad it may not verify. Given the verify takes about the same time as an image I prefer to carry it out manually and occasionally. I'd prefer to spend the extra time putting an image on a second drive.

I'm still not sold on the integrity of differentials - great maybe when everything is going fine.
I understand a verify does not guarantee a restore will always work.
I just prefer to always do that added check when i create an image.
For me, verify runs much quicker than creating the image, and i can kick off the process and do something else while a backup/verify is running.

I hear you about differentials.
I played with with incrementals/diffs many years ago with Acronis.
I decided not to use them, i don't trust incrementals.

Since then i've quit using System Restore as it doesn't backup everything, isn't reliable, process always running, etc.
I've read about too many problems from folks that only have System Restore as an option to restore if they have problems, and it doesn't work.

I've been testing V6 Diffs and they work for me so far, but i'm prepared to restore to my last full backup if needed.
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08 Feb 2016   #15
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Thanks David for alerting me of the retention rules. For now I will give V6 a try on a little 2GB test partition and see what the options are.
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09 Feb 2016   #16
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

I actually switched from Macrium Reflect Pro v5 to Macrium Free v6.
I know it may seem strange switching from a Pro product to free but I've found the free version 6 offers me exactly the same as Pro v5 and more.
I've always used differential images and they're a whole lot easier to setup in v6.
For me there wasn't anything added in v6 Pro that I needed, so wasn't worth me paying for an upgrade this time around. I don't use any of the deploy features, if I'm moving to a new PC, I prefer to do a clean install anyway.
The only thing I don't have now in Free v6 is incremental backups, which I didn't use anyway. No loss there.
I've been really impressed with v6.
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09 Feb 2016   #17
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

I like v6 the only thing I don't understand is why it adds (Recovered) to the os listing and b-How to remove it :/
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09 Feb 2016   #18
kado897

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brds7t7 View Post
I actually switched from Macrium Reflect Pro v5 to Macrium Free v6.
I know it may seem strange switching from a Pro product to free but I've found the free version 6 offers me exactly the same as Pro v5 and more.
I've always used differential images and they're a whole lot easier to setup in v6.
For me there wasn't anything added in v6 Pro that I needed, so wasn't worth me paying for an upgrade this time around. I don't use any of the deploy features, if I'm moving to a new PC, I prefer to do a clean install anyway.
The only thing I don't have now in Free v6 is incremental backups, which I didn't use anyway. No loss there.
I've been really impressed with v6.
The main improvement in the V6 pro for me is fast delta restores. If you are restoring a recent image over an existing install it will only restore the differences resulting in vastly improved restore times. A restore of an 80GB installation to a spinner used to take 30 minutes it now takes 5. This is almost as fast as a system restore so I have now turned system restore off.
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09 Feb 2016   #19
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
I like v6 the only thing I don't understand is why it adds (Recovered) to the os listing and b-How to remove it :/
Hey Thrash, that's unusual, the only time I've ever had recovered added to the OS boot listing was after I'd done a repair Install. Not sure why macrium has done that.
I just renamed the recovered entry using EasyBCD.
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09 Feb 2016   #20
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brds7t7 View Post
I actually switched from Macrium Reflect Pro v5 to Macrium Free v6.
I know it may seem strange switching from a Pro product to free but I've found the free version 6 offers me exactly the same as Pro v5 and more.
I've always used differential images and they're a whole lot easier to setup in v6.
For me there wasn't anything added in v6 Pro that I needed, so wasn't worth me paying for an upgrade this time around. I don't use any of the deploy features, if I'm moving to a new PC, I prefer to do a clean install anyway.
The only thing I don't have now in Free v6 is incremental backups, which I didn't use anyway. No loss there.
I've been really impressed with v6.
The main improvement in the V6 pro for me is fast delta restores. If you are restoring a recent image over an existing install it will only restore the differences resulting in vastly improved restore times. A restore of an 80GB installation to a spinner used to take 30 minutes it now takes 5. This is almost as fast as a system restore so I have now turned system restore off.
Hi Kado, I did notice the rapid delta restore feature. Definitely seems like a very good feature. I don't restore images all that often though so wasn't a feature I felt I needed. I can definitely see the benefit of it though.
I don't use system restore these days either. If something isn't working right, I just restore from the image instead. Luckily, I haven't had to do it that often.
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