Use Windows 7 imaging routine on the same/source disk


  1. Posts : 892
    Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
       #1

    Use Windows 7 imaging routine on the same/source disk


    Just now I've seen a lot of questions here on using Macrium. I have tried that myself and I only wound up with a bunch of rescue disks and no ISO cd. While there seems to be a lot of enthusiasm for it here, any of the recent backup or clone progs have been confusing to me. Or worse-- a Linux prog like Clonezilla have eaten the source drive much less any target.

    My question is still on a safe and workable backup strategy. Win 7 contains a system image option on the Recovery Environment Disk and gives an option for it from the program itself.

    My usual backup is just to clone using Norton Ghost from the cd keeping in mind to run chkdsk first-- it seems to avoid a lot of problems. Maybe older is best but this process must have a simple answer that Sevenforums has discovered over the years.

    --> To begin with, just say if the Win 7 Image option is any good and how does it differ from Macrium and all the other programs like Acronis and Paragon.

    I now have enough disk space on one HD to create the image on the same drive just as a test.

    There is only one partition. My understanding is that a folder is made to store the image but I know little more from reading the procedures.
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  2. mjf
    Posts : 5,969
    Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
       #2

    Storing your system image on the same drive as your OS drive is not a good idea. Why: because if your drive fails you cannot restore the image. If you choose to do this then the image needs to be on a partition other than the OS partition.

    I've used Windows inbuilt system imaging and Macrium extensively with no problems. Macrium is definitely the best option. I don't understand your problems with Macrium. BTW you should store system images on a separate drive (preferably external drive) and not DVDs. Use a DVD/USB flash drive for the rescue media.
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  3. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #3

    mjf has given some good advice. I also have used the built in Windows 7 backup and Macrium. I now only use Macrium Reflect. It's easy to use.

    This tutorial by whs with it's video should help you.

    Imaging with free Macrium
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  4. Posts : 892
    Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
    Thread Starter
       #4

    These things make sense and are logical.
    I have some older HDs . My plan for this practice is to use a sacrifice HD for practice.
    First use administrative tools to do a simple reformat on that one.
    The just go through the make an image option in Win7. Win7 should see the newly
    formated/wiped drive. If a 'folder is needed in the process it should be evident.

    Will answer Macrium Separate.
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  5. whs
    Posts : 26,210
    Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
       #5

    No need to waste your time with an inferior Windows imaging. Macrium is a better tool.
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  6. Posts : 892
    Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Layback Bear said:
    mjf has given some good advice. I also have used the built in Windows 7 backup and Macrium. I now only use Macrium Reflect. It's easy to use.

    This tutorial by whs with it's video should help you.

    Imaging with free Macrium
    There's 101 pages showing below whatever video runs.

    I have seen a Macrium Quick Start with sections. I recall starting at the top which
    is making a Recovery disk. I have that. Must have had the program on my system.

    But what I'm not following is how the Macrium program will run from the cd drive
    to clone a disk as an example: a bootable ISO .

    I have the Recovery disk made. If I have to start fresh with a Macrium free version for
    Win7 64 is there a direct link to do so?

    But my goal is to be able to clone a drive as is possible with Acronis, Ghost etc from the removable media which seems most practical and safe... safe here meaning not wiping something by accident.

    I have diverted from the making of images only slightly. What I need is a fresh start
    with the Macrium program.
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  7. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #7

    I use Macrium to do all my Clones from ssd to ssd and they have always worked. I Clone the complete drive with Windows 7. I have the clone ssd out of my computer at this time so I can show it to you.

    Select the drive you want to clone and then where you want the Clone to go.

    Use Windows 7 imaging routine on the same/source disk-clone-today-only.png

    I found a old pictures of how things look when done.

    Use Windows 7 imaging routine on the same/source disk-capture.pngdisk-management-today.png

    Use Windows 7 imaging routine on the same/source disk-disk-management-dec-5-2015.png
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