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Windows 7: Windows 10 to 7 image restore question

06 Apr 2016   #11
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Your Interpretation is accurate

Except ...
Step 4 would normally be achieved by use of a bootable DVD or USB stick to perform the restore operation on a totally clean drive. ( ideally you would create this at stage 1) although there are downloads available if you forget )

Microsoft's OS upgrade systems have always been a weak point, so I tend to avoid upgrade where possible, although the Windows Ten one is about the best they've done

BTW I'm also an EaseUS user myself, (and make weekly images), so that is also an option if you are more comfortable with that way


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06 Apr 2016   #12
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Yep,
Personally I just clean installed the qualifying 7 os on another ssd and upgraded through the GWX icon
Being a clean install of win-7 there were no conflicts and it still shows restore back to win-7
If I wanted to go back I'd use it and just put the other original ssd back in and be done with it.

Almost a clone but not quite
More like a clean clone
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06 Apr 2016   #13
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Yes well I am still going to do what I do for the sake of a new drive to test 10, and the clone drive could be just a cheap spinner - if you like 10 then just clean the original drive (with all your programs on it) and clone the 10 back to the SSD.

I know trying 10 on a spinner might be slow but at least you will get some idea of what you are dealing with. If it is anything like my experience of upgrading to 10 then trying to get the wretched thing back to 7 in a normal state of operation using the restore methods I eventually gave up and I had to clean all and reinstall onto the original drive.

Personally I think 10 for what it is worth is not worth the hassle that so many are having problems with. As you all may have guessed by now I am a simple minded person and like to keep everything simple as I do dislike the rigmarole of inserting this and adding that - far too convoluted for me.

Anyway good luck seltzer
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06 Apr 2016   #14
seltzermx

Windows 7 64 Ultimate
 
 

Good god I must be dumb!! I forgot I still have the original laptop HDD that I upgraded from to an SSD. It's 750GB so no problem in using that for a clone.

So, new plan: Clone my current Win 7 SSD to the old HDD, and then clean install Win 10 on the SSD. If I don't like it, pop in the HDD and re-clone it to the SSD, pop that back in, and I'm back in business.

Any downsides to this plan? Any issues with potentially swapping drives like this, especially if I'd be switching back and forth between SSD and HDD?
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06 Apr 2016   #15
RolandJS

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Yea I believe system images take a lot less space than a clone would.
I recommend making two full images, just in case.
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06 Apr 2016   #16
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Yes well seltzer I think that is a plan and I do agree with making images to an external or something - it is simply that I think my method is just that - simple.

Edit I meant to say though that the drives have to be the same size ie 500GB to 500GB or 500GB to 750GB it is nigh impossible unless I am terribly mistaken to clone from large to smaller drive ie 750GB to 500GB though I have done that in the past with a little fiddling around .
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06 Apr 2016   #17
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seltzermx View Post

Any downsides to this plan? Any issues with potentially swapping drives like this, especially if I'd be switching back and forth between SSD and HDD?
Don't expect to dual boot them
If you don't like win-10 roll back then use the other drive.
You'll most likely create issues with the upgraded key if you attempt to dual boot the install you upgraded = big mess
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06 Apr 2016   #18
seltzermx

Windows 7 64 Ultimate
 
 

AH, i have done a clone to a smaller drive in the past. Like here when I went from my 750GB to 500GB SSD. I was only using around 300GB, so it wasn't an issue. A bit more tedious to resize and all that, but not a problem.

And I don't expect to dual-boot. I'd either be using one or the other.

And hmmm... hadn't considered the license thing. I know you can now use a Win7/8 key for a clean install instead of having to upgrade, get the key, and then wipe if you wanted to start fresh. But now, I'm not sure what happens to they key itself. Does it change into a Win10 key or do i get a new key? Does the Win7 key become invalid if I used it for the upgrade?

And can I roll back if I go with a clean install?
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06 Apr 2016   #19
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

There is nothing to roll back too if you clean install win-10
The key is absorbed as digital entitlement

There is no "either or" there is only win-10 if upgraded using the 7 key.
You'd most likely have to call Microsoft to straighten out the validity of the win-7 key.

As far as I know you do have to use the restore back to win-7
At least that way you're informing M$ no thanks and you can add feedback as to why.
After that is done you have gone the normal way to roll back.
Even if the restore fails and most the time they will in some way
You can connect the other ssd and everything "should" be fine.

M$ is getting pretty good at keeping track of installs
Every time you connect to the internet the key is verified.
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06 Apr 2016   #20
seltzermx

Windows 7 64 Ultimate
 
 

Ah got it. And yeah, I did have to call once to re-use a non-OEM key on a new system from a no-longer-in-use PC. They were very nice and helped me get my Win copy to use the key.

With some trips coming up, I'll probably try this late April/early May. I'll let you guys know how it goes.

Thanks for all the help!
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