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Windows 7: Imaging To an Identical SSD, Question

21 Aug 2016   #31
RolandJS

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

"...Mark E as inactive...." ?I think end-user has to mark another Partition as Active in order for E to become inactive? That's the way my Acronis Disk Director and my Windows 7 Pro's Disk Management works.


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21 Aug 2016   #32
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

You could be right, Roland. It's been a long time since I had to fiddle with that setting.

I assume some partition on the SSD is already active if the PC boots with only the SSD connected---thus my assumption it's a hidden partition. But...........?
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21 Aug 2016   #33
2therock

Win 10 Pro 64x
 
 

Hi, I Don't Know If I'm Having Fun Yet or Not. Mercy. As a former PI its in my blood not to give up. My goal here is to get my ducks in a row. If I cant see the Forrest for the trees I'm hoping you guys hang with me not pulling any punches. Thanks for everything so far.

So....... She is running fine and can boot on the single drive and stopped the hang in shutdown. Sigh!

In disc management I cannot get any of the drives to allow me to mark or unmark as active. Its always shaded out.

I have a feeling the use of minitool to merge the partitions I considered as clutter is my bane. Learning the hard way here.

So I opened mini tool to look around and see different or at least more info than in disc management.
I can see the C:\ EFI partition is identified as Active & Boot. Well Now!
I notice the C:\ is a GPT, I did not do this. I remember being asked and stuck with the default.
I also notice I can toggle any other drive on the system as active or inactive from a right click drop down menu but not for the partitions on C:, no toggle choice at all.
No more experimenting or assuming for me (like the clutter thing) I just backed out.



I then ran the partition recovery tool but did not act on it. Again I say, Just looking.

What you do here is scary for me. You select the drives you want including existing, hit next and it basically tells you the unchecked will be deleted. And then hit next.
Note: As you select them, in my case just to see what happens I selected the Existing 100MB EFI & Main 953.77GB and the Lost/Deleted 3.01MB Boot partition.
As I checked them they were marked as "overlapped". There is an option in this program called "Align" and My guess is after the recovery this would be the thing to run.
Just looking, I did not hit next.

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21 Aug 2016   #34
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

On disk "0" the EFI System is active. That is why is why disk "0" will boot to Windows 7 on partition "C".
System = Active.
At this time I would recommend leaving Disc "0" alone. It's working as it should.


What I would like to know, is their anything on the other drives/disk that needs to be saved.

The orignal question.

Quote:

Imaging To an Identical SSD, Question
I'm not seeing another SSD.

Disk "0" appears as it does because the EFI System does not have a partition letter and it should not have a partition letter.
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21 Aug 2016   #35
2therock

Win 10 Pro 64x
 
 

Thanks, I am no longer tense about my system thanks to you guys.
The SSD has not been purchased yet. I'm waiting to get paid on something I sold and it will come this week I hope. Thats what brought me here asking before I pull the trigger.

Discs 1 & 2 are removed.
Disc 3 is what I backup my data files to using Genie Backup Manager. I know its still in the same box but its in case the SSD freaks. Its 459GB of uncompressed files.

Disc 4 will eventually be removed but is where I will make an image tonight and tomorrow do the test you spoke of by disconnecting disc 0 and trying to boot, recover from the image, and run on the drive its parked on? Can I do that? Image a SSD system to a HDD and run it there?

The SSD will be disconnected when its not having the backup written to it. I plan on updating it once a week minimum.
Question: My PC case has an SATA dock built in and I can easily mount and mount it by hand. Should I configure it for "Quick Removal" or use the "safely remove hardware" method.

Make Since?
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21 Aug 2016   #36
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

see comments in bold

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 2therock View Post

Disc 4 will eventually be removed but is where I will make an image tonight and tomorrow do the test you spoke of by disconnecting disc 0 and trying to boot, recover from the image, and run on the drive its parked on? Can I do that? Image a SSD system to a HDD and run it there?



No.

You don't "run" image files.

You make them and you restore them.

An image file can't be restored to the disk on which it is stored.

The SSD versus HDD question doesn't matter in imaging in my experience. They are treated equally.


I'd do these things in this order:

1: decide on which drive you intend to store your test image.

2: decide on the drive to which you intend to restore that image.

Steps 1 and 2 can't have the same answer. So, I'd assume you would choose 2 different internal drives.

3: decide how you intend to boot your PC while you are pretending drive 0 has failed. If you can't boot after a primary drive failure, you are stuck.

4: Fire up your imaging application and make a single image file of ALL partitions on your current boot drive, saving that image to whatever drive you chose in step 1.

5: Shut down and disconnect all drives EXCEPT the 2 drives you chose in steps 1 and 2.

6: boot the PC using whatever method you chose in step 3.

7: Navigate to the image and restore it from the drive chosen in step 1 to the drive chosen in step 2.

8: Shut down and disconnect all drives except the one you chose in step 2.

9: See if the PC will then boot with only that drive connected.

I think that would be a reasonable test.





Question: My PC case has an SATA dock built in and I can easily mount and mount it by hand. Should I configure it for "Quick Removal" or use the "safely remove hardware" method.


Generally speaking--I'd forget about that for now until you are certain you can get through the imaging and restoration process without any issues. Worry about that later--possibly by starting another thread.

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21 Aug 2016   #37
2therock

Win 10 Pro 64x
 
 

Thanks, I copy that and will do it this week and get back.
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22 Aug 2016   #38
2therock

Win 10 Pro 64x
 
 

I tried the test and @7hrs it had 11hrs to go?
Maybe I didn't prepare the HDD correctly or trying to restore an image from a 1TB SSD to a 750GB HDD is wrong?
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22 Aug 2016   #39
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Not enough detail provided.

We don't know:

What app you are using.

If you at least think you successfully created an image file.

What you mean by "prepare the HDD".

The size of the image file you created.

I assume you are not using Macrium, so I can't help much if you aren't.

I think most imaging apps will let you restore to any drive whose total size is at least as large as the occupied space of the partititions imaged. As I recall, you had somewhere around 500 GB occupied on disk 0.

Maybe you are using EaseUS. They may have a forum.

I wouldn't expect the restoration to take more than an hour or 90 minutes for partitions totaling 500 occupied unless you are on an antique PC---using Macrium.
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22 Aug 2016   #40
2therock

Win 10 Pro 64x
 
 

Thanks, I'll post on EaseUS forum.

Image is from a 1TB SSD and is 452GB.
Destination HDD is 750GB.
I may have not prepared the HDD good enough. I did a quick format thinking EaseUS will do the rest and got a warning about the drive being formatted.

We will see.
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